http://paloaltoonline.com/square/print/2014/01/08/google-ferry-instead-of-bus


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Google ferry instead of bus?

Original post made by Resident on Jan 8, 2014

Instead of busing employees along 101, it seems that Google may be trying to ferry them down the Bay.

Web Link

Perhaps we should be talking about a ferry terminal in the Baylands beside the Airport!

Comments

Posted by huh, a resident of Downtown North
on Jan 8, 2014 at 4:44 pm

How does this ferry work? It stops in Redwood City, but Google is in Mountain View. Do they walk the rest of the way?


Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 8, 2014 at 8:27 pm

This article states that the ferry is met by buses at Redwood City. Web Link

It would make a lot more sense to get some ferry terminals in Palo Alto and Mountain View. It may mean dredging some of the Bay to make the terminals deep enough for ferries, but if Google Bikes met the ferries then a ride through the Baylands before work would be a nice option.

SF Bay could do a lot more to help public transportation and this shows that innovation is possible.


Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jan 8, 2014 at 9:47 pm

Hmmm is a registered user.

Just like the old days, when Palo Alto had a harbor, Redwood City's & EPA's ports got workouts.


Posted by anonymous, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jan 9, 2014 at 9:50 am

Nothing wrong with trying out this ferry/bus scheme. They certainly have the money to do it. What I objected to (in agreement with people up in S.F.) was the public outrage over Google busses using public bus stops for free in violation of stated posted penalty for such use! I understand they are now supposed to pay $1 for each use of a stop -- wow!
From what I have seen the busses heading back up north on 101 for more passengers do return to S.F. empty - I wish someone (like some of us needing to go up to SFO) could sit in those comfy busses.


Posted by anonymous, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jan 9, 2014 at 9:54 am

A bit garbled there; I agree with SF people who objected to Google busses using public bus stops for free. That situation has been mildly improved as I read Google is now paying a minor fee to use the stops.

You need to find PA old timey people; from what I gather, they would come out of the woodwork to oppose dredging the bay and/or PA Baylands in order for a ferry boat to get in here or to Moffett Field or Shoreline. I don't know why it is "damaging," but I know they got rid of a PA small boat harbor that existed here once upon a time and that required dredging. I am ALL in favor of maintaining the Baylands but I don't immediately see why a ferry boat out on the Bay should be opposed, since 101 is clearly overloaded.


Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jan 9, 2014 at 12:24 pm

Hmmm is a registered user.

The thing about the private buses hogging the public bus stops isn't just a financial one, it's a public safety one. When Muni can't pull up to its proper stop, but stops in the vicinity, it's unsafe for disembarking & embarking passengers to have to do so in the street, as frequently happens.


Posted by resident, a resident of Downtown North
on Jan 9, 2014 at 12:33 pm

Of course, the root cause of the Google bus squabble is that NIMBYs are fighting against more housing near the Google offices. That forces employees to live miles away, like San Francisco or even Oakland.

Google is buying up office space in Palo Alto. Is Palo Alto going to let the employees live here or are we going to add to the traffic problem by forcing them into long commutes?


Posted by Mr.Recycle, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jan 9, 2014 at 7:50 pm

@resident - I know an awful lot of Google folks who live in San Francisco, and none of them live there because they couldn't find a place to live in Mountain View..


Posted by Beam me up, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 9, 2014 at 8:27 pm

resident,

"Is Palo Alto going to let the employees live here or are we going to add to the traffic problem by forcing them into long commutes?"

Palo Alto needs to share the love and encourage jobs away in areas looking for jobs. Those stuck on employees having to live where they work should start building villages or space ships somewhere (not Palo Alto) where they can just use escalators to "commute."

PA has enough traffic with Stanford, Stanford shopping center, the vanity address folks who supposedly "need" to be here.





Posted by Robert, a resident of another community
on Jan 9, 2014 at 9:01 pm

Its a smart concept, the main problem with public transportation and tech companies, is that the campuses are in the baylands, about as far from Caltrain as you can get. Creative solutions are always better than throwing up ones hands and trying to block progress.


Posted by huh, a resident of Downtown North
on Jan 10, 2014 at 9:48 am

The new land that Google is buying up is along Charleston Road in Palo Alto, not in the Baylands.

However, the problem with Caltrain is that it is already overloaded. Employers can't expect thousands of new employees to use Caltrain when the trains are already standing-room-only.


Posted by Water , a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jan 10, 2014 at 5:07 pm

Google is doing what the state agency is dragging is hull about...This is a great move, one that bring further South water transportation, but more needs to be done and use different technology to connect the rest of the bay South of Dumbarton to the greater bay trail pedestrian and bicycle network.


Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 14, 2014 at 12:57 pm

What about hovercrafts? Would that be a better option. Web Link