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The Science Education Myth?

Original post made by Sanford Forte on Oct 26, 2007

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According to this article, American science education is succeeding. What do you think?


Posted by Reader, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 26, 2007 at 8:52 pm

I think the comments attached to the article say it all.

We are importing so many engineers who appear to be better educated and are willing to move here to further their educations and lifestyles that it appears to not matter how well we are educating kids here.

Posted by ChronReader, a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Oct 26, 2007 at 10:23 pm

Doesn't quite jibe with the article that just appeared on the front page of the Chron saying that - that's to Bush's No Child Left Behind - science education is being left behind (along with everything else other than reading and math).

Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of Midtown
on Oct 27, 2007 at 1:29 pm

A pity we are teaching silly "science" instead of science.

Posted by Gary, a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 27, 2007 at 4:22 pm

Sounds like we don't need any H1 visas. Hmmm...wonder why our high tech execs say we do? Something ain't computin' here.

Posted by ExpectingTheWorst, a resident of South of Midtown
on Oct 27, 2007 at 8:25 pm


I know I shouldn't ask this, but I will anyway:
Just what is the "silly" science we are supposedly teaching (and what is the "science" science that you want taught) that you refer to in your post above?

Posted by John, a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 27, 2007 at 8:51 pm


I have no idea what Walter will say. However, I think I have a feel for his statement.

Let me ask a question, one that any HS science student should be able to answer: What is a mole? Please exclude any reference to furry little animals and little things on the skin (some appealing, most not).

Hint: If you say something like: gram-molecular-weight, you are wrong (or at least very limited). I think Walter might know, though.

Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of Midtown
on Oct 28, 2007 at 1:24 am

When Gore's crockumentory is presented as science and as rationalization for placing the economy under international government control, absent any evidence but fraudulent guestimates, that is not science.

Posted by Mike, a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 28, 2007 at 10:34 am

Walter, good reads of Kuhn, and Popper, might help you in your philosophizing about science.

Posted by oh, please, a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Oct 29, 2007 at 7:29 pm

I know the definition of a mole!

It is 6.02 x 10^23 particles/molecules/atoms/whatever. (Avogadro's number)

We use moles to determine molar mass, molarity, etc.
Important formulas involving moles include the ideal gas law (PV=nRT) and one of several formulas for Gibbs' free energy (G=-nFE).

Of course, I suppose I cheated-- I'm in AP Chemistry.

Posted by ned, a resident of Green Acres
on Nov 3, 2007 at 7:33 pm

sounds like walter wallace is jealous of a certain somebody's nobel prize....don't let it eat you up. some of us are internationally recognized statesmen and some of us are cranky old men complaining online.