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Solidarity Against Hate Crimes

Original post made by Elliot, Barron Park, on Nov 9, 2006

You may have read of the recent murder of a Muslim

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Posted by Midtowner
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 9, 2006 at 11:16 am

"On Monday, November 13 the Fremont Muslim community has organized a day of solidarity throughout Fremont where men and women will observe a moment of silence and many will wear a hijab or turban or something relevant to Muslim observance."

Just wanted to point out that turbans are actually *not* relevant to Muslim observance. Hijabs are though. Turbans are primarily worn by Sikhs, followers of Sikhism. In Islam, men usually wear prayer hats (similar to yarmulkes). A little religious lesson for all of you out there.

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Posted by pete
a resident of Community Center
on Nov 10, 2006 at 1:56 pm

Oh, please! The suspect in the case is Hispanic, not the angry white male I'm sure you were hoping it would be. It was probably a gang thing that got out of hand. People get killed every day wearing crusifixes or with Jesus fishes on their cars -- nobody call that a hate crime. This looks like a lot of liberals with time on their hands trying to find something to do to make them feel morally superior. Like always, symbolism over substance.

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Posted by SkepticAl
a resident of Ventura
on Nov 12, 2006 at 10:17 pm

Pete - it seems like you have a problem with people of good will trying to stand together to make a statement of solidarity against violence. Why is it important to you to oppose something like that? And symbolism can have plenty of substance. Educate yourself about responses to attacks detailed in the documentary, "Not In Our Town." Palo Alto had some events around that last year.

Why does the suspect's ethnicity matter? Are you suggesting only white people would commit a hate crime? Why do you quickly jump from Hispanic background to the idea of gang violence? Do you have more information to support that connection in this case?

You're also trying to water down or distort the idea of a hate crime. If people are killed and they happen to be visibly Christian, Muslim, Jewish etc., that may or may not be a hate crime. If people are killed BECAUSE of their identity, that IS a hate crime. If you know of recent cases Christians who have been killed because of their religion, please share the info so that we can stand in solidarity with them as well.