should Palo Alto photograph all cars coming in to town? Crimes & Incidents, posted by tiburon, a resident of another community, on Nov 19, 2009 at 1:14 pm
The city of Tiburon is going to start photographing all cars entering town. The photos will be stored by the police for 30 days and if a crime is committed in that time period, the police can use the photos to help identify suspects.
Palo Alto residents seem to be obsessed by criminals coming in from out of town. Should Palo Alto start photographing all visitors, just in case they later commit a crime?
Posted by Outside Observer, a resident of another community, on Nov 19, 2009 at 6:25 pm
Good idea, but we will need another dose of good old Palo Alto "traffic calming", and that will close down most all entry/exit roads, plus it will make the congestion so severe, not only plates, but faces can be photographed.
We will have to do something about the trains, buses and bicyclists though. Exit cameras on the trains and buses will work, bicyclists will be a little more difficult, but we could limit bicyclists to only spandex-clad riders on nothing less than a 5K bike.... I think that would do the trick.
OK, enough of "tongue-in-cheek" Something like this could actually be valuable, if they turned the photos over to ICE.
Posted by get real, a resident of the Palo Verde neighborhood, on Nov 20, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Rational people can see this is a good idea that will make PA safer.
What possible burden or infringement is it to have one's license plate photographed on a public roadway?
Hate to break it to you complainers, but your picture is being snapped at the ATM, the airport, most stores you enter... has this really led to strip searches, Iranian-style oppression or Hitler-style genocide? Get a little perspective, people!
Posted by Your Papers, Please!, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Nov 21, 2009 at 6:16 pm
I say ring a 20-foot high concrete wall topped with barbed wire at the border with security cameras covering all areas and lasers set to stun upon any/all intruders, whether human or animal(those darn animals can be awfully sneaky!).
Then set up "Checkpoint Charlies" at designated access points which will be open to residents only; all others will be allowed entrance only after tracking devices are inserted into their necks. All such foreigners must spent at least $50 in the downtown area; failure to do so will result in their detention for hard labor to make up the difference.
Posted by Be Fair, a resident of the Meadow Park neighborhood, on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:48 am
Bearing in mind that Palo Alto's city limits go right up to Skyline Blvd., there are more than 25 different exits and entrances that lead into and out of Palo Alto. To be fair, if you're going to put cameras as one main entrance like Oregon you'll have to put them at all entrances and exits even if they only lead into Los Altos Hills.
Incidentally, all the roads leading up to Skyline Blvd are patrolled by our Police Department.
Posted by VoxPop, a resident of the Old Palo Alto neighborhood, on Nov 22, 2009 at 7:44 pm
No one who favors this intrusive procedure seems to have considered the cost. At a time when city, county, and state budgets are being slashed, who will pay for it? Where should it rank on the list of projects that will be paid for? How about a reality check here.
Posted by Nora Charles, a resident of Stanford, on Nov 22, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Sometimes it does cost a bit to be safe and I call that money well spent. Perhaps some city money can be redirected to cameras, and ensuring the safety of residents. I suggest the funds for the proposed Beasley sculpture be funneled to public safety. How many residents would prefer this to a hideous hunk of concrete? (And while we're at it, let's put the fugly "Go Momma" to work by installing a camera within this dubious work of art. I could better tolerate this monstrosity if it was working for the public good.)
As for the naysayers--I think law abiding residents of Palo Alto and nearby communities would not mind, even welcome cameras. I recently watched video of chavs in London threatening and attacking a reporter. (I'm happy to say the reporter got in a really good punch.) The police carted off the criminals and the footage will be used to convict the creeps. I very much doubt the man attacked considered the camera recording his assault "intrusive." Let's follow England's lead.
Posted by tiburon, a resident of another community, on Nov 23, 2009 at 9:36 am
The biggest item in the Palo Alto budget is public schools, so just take some money from that pot. The big egging controversy proves that those kids are way to coddled. Cut the fluff out of the school budget and get back to hard core eduction.