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Issues Beyond Palo Alto, posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 8:53 am
Walter_E_Wallis is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online

Are you ready to have a law that prohibits any legal consideration of gender? I am all for equal opportunity, equal pay for equal work and equal political access, but the trend now seems to be the outlawing of any gender reference.

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Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 9:06 am

I'm with you Walter. Sharing public restrooms? Locker rooms? Changing rooms in department stores? No thank you. One sports league for our young children, no more boy scouts/girl scouts - just scouts, we are not a one gender fits all society. Vive la difference!


Posted by paloaltomom, a resident of the South of Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 9:58 am

It sounds like a bizarre statement, and my first thought it will never happen. Then again, I have heard of sharing bathrooms in college, and such -- what are you referring to? Some legislation?


Posted by Curmudgeon, a resident of the Downtown North neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 11:19 am

Aw, lighten up Walter. We all wish this had been in effect when we were young enough to enjoy it. Grumping won't change anything.


Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 12:37 pm
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Sorry Curmudgeon, but I have always known the difference - I still remember, I think...

paloaltomom, read the recent law making crimes against Gays a hate crime, and follow it to its logical conclusion.

Next year's reading primer - Heather has 2 Mommies, 7 overnight uncles and a bunch of funny Aunties.


Posted by Curmudgeon, a resident of the Downtown North neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 1:38 pm

"Next year's reading primer - Heather has 2 Mommies, 7 overnight uncles and a bunch of funny Aunties."

The grown-ups already got that. It's called Prime Time TV. Cuts down on reading big time.


Posted by Peter, a resident of another community, on Oct 12, 2009 at 6:28 pm

So, Walter, Resident, etal, you would have no problem claiming that this was not a hate crime and deserving of additional punishment? How would you feel if people decided to target grumpy people as a special group?

NY Daily News: "An openly gay Queens man was clinging to life Sunday night after being brutally beaten by two hate-spewing attackers on a walk to a corner store, police and relatives said Sunday." Web Link


Posted by Sean, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 7:17 pm

Herbert Kay's murder, in Downtown Palo Alto was a hate crime, but it was not charged as such. Why? Becasue Kay was a straight white victim.

So much for hate crime laws.


Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 13, 2009 at 2:55 am
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The obverse of hate crime is Krystal Nacht, where the people being attacked receive less government sympathy. Either we are equal under the law or we are not.


Posted by You are right, a resident of the Duveneck/St. Francis neighborhood, on Oct 13, 2009 at 10:30 am

You are right Walter, the law should apply equally to everyone. But does it make sense to somehow do more to enforce the law to help a group that courts have concluded receives more than their fair share of a specific crime?

Surely a policeman can stake out which intersection to watch based on known violations?


Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 13, 2009 at 12:24 pm
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Police should always go where they believe trouble is brewing, but the Gay I can lose my job for calling a Flaming Queen should also lose his job for calling me a Breeder. Or perhaps mere expressions of opinion unaccompanied by a threat should be considered free speech.


Posted by Paul, a resident of the Downtown North neighborhood, on Oct 13, 2009 at 4:44 pm

"the Gay I can lose my job for calling a Flaming Queen..."

Didn't you once tell us you were self-employed? Would you really can yourself over that?


Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 13, 2009 at 7:29 pm
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I do depend on a clientele that is sensitive to public pressure, Paul.


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