Post a New Topic
Original post made
on Sep 11, 2009
So, Sharon, I guess you did not display a flag either, since you claim you did not see one flag in the city. there are other ways to observe this day besides displaying a flag.
Some of us express our patriotism through action and not just symbols.
Remember all those little flags on car antennas in October 2001 - tattered and filthy with road grime? Ironic how Americans got stampeded into mass flag desecration, isn't it?
America's freedom has been attacked far more from within than by external enemies [portion removed by Palo Alto Online.]
We have a flag holder which came with our house. Although I would like to show my support and pride for living in America, the American flag has become a symbol of Republicans, which I am not.
Sharon, I love my Country and I fly the flag on all major holidays. I remember when there were a lot more flags flown on these holidays, that's how it was in Palo Alto when I was a child and I have noticed a decrease in the amount of flags flown. I was not aware, however, that we were supposed to fly the flag on 9/11. If flying the flag on 9/11 is a matter of showing patriotic solidarity against a heinous act on Americans I'd be happy to do it. My question to you is, do you fly your flag on December 7th?
Let me offer an outsider view - when I came to this country 20 years ago from Russia, I was very surprised to see Americans displaying flags and other signs of their patriotism. In the Soviet Union, people were so tired of official propaganda that it was incomprehensible to voluntarily display any symbols of the official statehood. America was so refreshing in its genuine patriotism 20 years ago, but now I feel that people are brainwashed into believing that patriotism is somehow bad, that it is more in vogue to be "ashamed" of US as a country, of US flag, of US military, of US police, etc. I remember during the citizenship ceremony in Oakland this spring that I attended as a guest for a relative, the official who was making a speech said to the newly sworn crowd of new US citizens that up until election of Obama he couldn't look at US flag without a disgust. I was shocked. This was the official ceremony for new US citizens. I think it is the core of the issue. People are too brainwashed by the media, and this brainwashing is much more smart that it was in communist countries because it comes from people who are much more likable and respectable than "Joe the Plumber". It is much more "cool" to side up with university professors, actors, writers, the "intelligenzia" than with midwest conservatives or "Sarah Palins":) But I think people fail to see the degragadation of society, the demise of moral values, the brainwashing, the shut-down of free speech, which are all so worrysome trends.
Elena your insights are very much needed here in Liberalville. I used to think of myself as a liberal -- I've been a lifelong democrat. But over the years, it looks like we are moving to Big Brother or Big Government that will manage the people. Patty Fisher's column in today's SJMN is a good example of well intentioned but completely clueless about what is going on. She says health care is just too complicated for us to understand -- we need to trust and she trusts Obama because he is wise. Sounds almost reverential. I voted for Obama but not socialized medicine. If there is no danger of the main sticking points, then why not nail down the details andt put them in the Health care bill. But as it stands, it is vague. gee, I wonder why.
[Post removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]
I wouldn't argue about where Palo Alto's head is, and I agree with Elena. But, I don't appreciate Sharon's attempt to call those who don't fly flags unpatriotic. This, by it's very nature, is a free country. I am proud to be here, proud to be an American, proud to be a Californian, but you don't get to tell me that I need to fly a flag in order to fit into your idea of patriotic.
America's freedom has been attacked far more from within than by external enemies, often with the enthusiastic support of the noisy flag-waving crowd. The Bush administration comes to mind.
I my view it is up to people to remember as they see fit.
I felt that CNNs terrible, hysterical coverage this morning was appalling, they caused a temporary shut down of Reagan Airport and no doubt disturbed many many people.
Rest easy, all you flag haters. The City of Palo Alto never displays flags on Veterans
Day, the 4th of July, Memorial Day, Flag Day, or Labor Day. Sometimes not even in Civic Center Plaza (yes, that's what I still call it.) But Redwood City does. So do Los Altos, Mt. View, and Sunnyvale. Flags all over the place. There was the broohaha over PA showing any flags on the 50th anniversary in 1995 of the ending of WWII for fear it would distress our Japanese residents!! As for flags being a symbol of a political party? Oh, come on!!
Wow, people sure got riled up. And yes, I did fly a flag today (I am a democrat by the way, to the person who sided with Paul, but omitted a name). This is America, the flag was once a symbol of our great country, which is why I fly it on 9/11. Americans died senselessly on that day, changing us forever. I remember them and the brave men and women who continue the fight on foreign soil. I am by no means a flag waver on a regular day Today I choose to honor the memory of those who died and continue to die because of 9/11.
All flags at Palo Alto Fire Stations were at half staffed.
Google ignored 911
However Bing is a different matter Web Link
Well done Bing, poor performance google
Firefighter.....You will always be a WILLY-NILLY group of failed Spineless followers selling out the Fire Service for a little over time and a baseball card... IAFF Local 1319 is a joke.
343 and counting............RIP..
If you were a member and logged in you could track comments from this story.
Post a comment
Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online.
Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information
We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.
Select your neighborhood or school community: * Not sure?
- Barron Park
- Charleston Gardens
- Charleston Meadows
- College Terrace
- Community Center
- Crescent Park
- Downtown North
- Duveneck/St. Francis
- Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
- Esther Clark Park
- Evergreen Park
- Greater Miranda
- Green Acres
- Greendell/Walnut Grove
- Leland Manor/Garland Drive
- Meadow Park
- Monroe Park
- Old Palo Alto
- Palo Alto Hills
- Palo Alto Orchards
- Palo Verde
- South of Midtown
- St. Claire Gardens
- The Greenhouse
- Triple El
- University South
- Addison School
- Barron Park School
- Duveneck School
- Egan Middle School (Los Altos)
- El Carmelo School
- Escondido School
- Fairmeadow School
- Gunn High School
- Hoover School
- JLS Middle School
- Jordan Middle School
- Juana Briones School
- Nixon School
- Ohlone School
- Palo Alto High School
- Palo Verde School
- Santa Rita (Los Altos)
- Terman Middle School
- Walter Hays School
- another community
- Another Palo Alto neighborhood
- East Palo Alto
- Los Altos
- Los Altos Hills
- Menlo Park
- Mountain View
- Portola Valley
Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.
Developers and Development
By Steve Levy | 24 comments | 1,492 views
Savoring this year's "lasts"
By Sally Torbey | 9 comments | 1,062 views
By Laura Stec | 8 comments | 1,037 views
What it's like to have a tween
By Jessica T | 0 comments | 916 views
2013 Holiday Book Gift Guide (Part 1)
By Nick Taylor | 0 comments | 509 views
Home & Real Estate
Shop Palo Alto
Send News Tips
Circulation & Delivery
Mountain View Voice
© 2013 Palo Alto Online
All rights reserved.