Town Square

Post a New Topic

Prison Guard's perspective

Original post made by anon, Adobe-Meadow, on Aug 13, 2009

As a California Dept. of Corrections & Rehabilitation (CDCR) employee, I

This story contains 1135 words.

If you are a paid subscriber, check to make sure you have logged in. Otherwise our system cannot recognize you as having full free access to our site.

If you are a paid print subscriber and haven't yet set up an online account, click here to get your online account activated.

Comments (7)

Like this comment
Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 13, 2009 at 12:56 pm

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

We need an Arpaio, and we need an Attorney General who vigorously fights these prisoner "Quality of life" lawsuits. Very often, in the brotherhood of lawyers, opposition is pro forma, as in the "defense" of 187, where we gave away billions of dollars without a fight.
I was at Camp Cook, later Vandenburg, in 1952. The disciplinary barracks were 7 miles away, but we would often be awakened by the sounds of prisoners counting cadence at midnight for some defalcation. Let's knock off the fiction of correction and rehabilitation, and construct a program that takes the joy out of a prisoner's life.

Like this comment
Posted by Stuart
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 13, 2009 at 1:24 pm


My cousin works in the CA prison system, and he tells me exactly the same thing. He has been viciously attacked by prisoners, with no forewarning. He has the scars to prove it. Prison guards are not paid too much. Prisoners are pampered. I agree with Walter, bring in someone like Arpaio. The chain gang would be healthy for them, and they can purchase their own sunscreen, if they want it.

Like this comment
Posted by leader
a resident of Stanford
on Aug 13, 2009 at 4:02 pm

Is Arpaio really the person we want here?

Web Link

"New reports show that the county may be improperly clearing as many as 75% of cases without arrest or proper investigation.[49][50][51] According to recent reports, the sheriff's office has failed to properly investigate serious crimes, such as the rape of a 14 year old girl by classmates,[52][53] the rape of a 15 year old girl by two strangers,[54][55] and the rape of a 13 year old girl by her father.[54][56] These cases were "exceptionally cleared" without investigation or even identifying a suspect in one case which are not in accordance with the FBI standards for exceptional clearance.[54][57] The case of the 15 year old girl, the case was closed within one month and before DNA testing was even complete, the 13 year old's because her mother didn't want to "to pursue this investigation," and the 14 year old's because a suspect declined to come in for questioning.[52][54] In a statement to ABC15, the Sheriff's Office claimed, "The Goldwater Institute’s report cites the FBI’s Uniform Code Reporting handbook, which is a voluntary crime-reporting program to compile statistical information and reports. The UCR is not intended for oversight on how law enforcement agencies clear cases...The Sheriff’s Office has its own criteria for clearing cases."[58]"

"Family members of inmates who have died or been injured in jail custody have filed lawsuits against the sheriff’s office. Maricopa County has paid more than $43 million in settlement claims during Arpaio's tenure. "

"At a December 17, 2008 meeting, four audience members at a County Board of Supervisors meeting were arrested for suspicion of disorderly conduct and trespassing, after they applauded an anti-Arpaio speaker.[8"

I can see why Wallis would support someone like Arpaio--they seem to share a love of fascism.

Like this comment
Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Aug 13, 2009 at 5:34 pm

"construct a program that takes the joy out of a prisoner's life"

So why are you still on the outside instead of enjoying your own slice of Nirvana in Soledad?

"I can see why Wallis would support someone like Arpaio--they seem to share a love of fascism."

Arpaio is good at promoting himself by clowning around and bullying people who cannot fight back, but not much else. But, like The Force, he can have a strong influence on the weak-minded.

Like this comment
Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 14, 2009 at 2:24 am

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

I am on the outside because I am a responsible adult. Numbers, to be relevant, need referent s and comparisons. Statistical analyses are not the ideal analytical tool since they usually have the "all other things being equal.." implied, all other things ain't equal. What is the crime complaint clearance rate comparison with frisco or or LA or New Orleans? My love of individualism and my unremitting opposition to the mindless terror of a mob, combined with my skepticism of the leaders are not consistent with Fascism. I would make the trains run on time by improving the plant, not refining the term "on time".

Like this comment
Posted by Don't be a Chump
a resident of Adobe-Meadow
on Aug 14, 2009 at 1:41 pm

sounds like another email put out by Corporate PR firm. The guards have an incredible job and are in extremely dangerous job both physically and mentally.
But the wording in this email just sounds like the same ones spewing misinformation and/or hate about healthcare. They know a bunch of chumps would fall for it and us it as another ralling cry.

It was probably put out by the CEO's of the Prison Corporation because the goverment is looking at the books and seeing how much they are profiting off the tax dollars.

Like this comment
Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Aug 15, 2009 at 2:11 am

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

Unless someone is intercepting the checks in my mail, I am nobody's paid stooge. Advocates of any issue tend to gravitate to similar points since issues do have points. It ill behooves anyone to, in the arena, seek to demean the means others use to access that same arena.

Don't miss out on the discussion!
Sign up to be notified of new comments on this topic.


Post a comment

Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online. Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion. All postings are subject to our TERMS OF USE, and may be deleted if deemed inappropriate by our staff.

We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.

Name: *

Select your neighborhood or school community: * Not sure?

Comment: *

Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.

*Required Fields

Tava Kitchen shutters in Palo Alto
By Elena Kadvany | 17 comments | 22,296 views

Top 6 Issues Affecting Seniors to keep an eye on as Donald Trump takes over
By Max Greenberg | 6 comments | 3,671 views

By Chandrama Anderson | 0 comments | 1,416 views

Packing for the Women's March
By Sally Torbey | 10 comments | 822 views