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Parking Permits for Evergreen Park Residents

Original post made by Andrea, Evergreen Park, on Jun 4, 2009

Have you ever tried to park on College Ave, Birch St, Ash St or Oxford Ave during the week? Its nearly impossible. Cars are parked in front of your house at 8am and are there until 5 or 6. They often move your garbage cans and block a portion of your driveway to get a spot. If you leave your spot you can easily spent twenty minutes trying to find another one and still never find a spot. This has been going on for years and it is only getting worse. I am hoping that maybe this idea will find a solution to our woes...

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Posted by Former PD aide
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 4, 2009 at 11:13 pm

Well, issuing tickets and permits would certainly help the city's revenues!

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Posted by qq
a resident of Barron Park
on Jun 5, 2009 at 3:39 am

A quick peek on Google Earth Street View shows lots of driveways and garages in that neighborhood. Is street parking really necessary when you have both a long driveway and garage? Perhaps if it is a real burden, those cute front yards could be paved over for more private parking? Only a construction permit away...

As has been covered countless times before on this forum, residential streets are payed for with tax dollars, hence public parking.


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Posted by ParkingProblem
a resident of College Terrace
on Jun 5, 2009 at 4:14 am

What about your driveway, carport, or garage?

I also do not like someone else parking in front of my residence, but you are describing a different complaint.

Do these people work in the area?

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Posted by Steve Tjiang
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jun 5, 2009 at 7:24 am

I am a resident of evergreen park. I, myself, have never experienced parking problems in front of my house nor in the neighborhood. Though I can sympathize.

However it seems the right approach is to build more parking structures on California avenue and make evergreen park streets narrower and more green, i.e. park strip wider. Restricting parking through rules seem kind of unneighborly to our business district who I think serves a wonderful and desirable function. Let's work with them to create more opportunities for parking over there.

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Posted by Streets are not private property
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jun 5, 2009 at 7:48 am

"I would like to reclaim my street and the space in front of my home so I can at least park my own car there or have a place for guests to park."

The problem with your statement, Andrea, is that the streets are public property--the space in front of your house does not belong to you--it is available for anyone and everyone to use.
I am always amazed how some people in Palo Alto, and especially in the College Terrace area, feel that the streets are private and are for their use only.

"my house is not the place to leave your car for the weekend. "

Your house does not include the street in front of it--if the person leaves the car in your driveway then you have something to complain about.

You are totally wrong, Andrea

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Posted by palo alto mom
a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Jun 5, 2009 at 8:56 am

The streets may be public, but it is also reasonable to be able to park near your home. This is not downtown were you expect a parking problem and know that when you move there. These streets are used as a parking lot for Stanford. 2 hour parking or permit parking on one side of the street would help with the problem.

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Posted by Streets are not private property
a resident of Evergreen Park
on Jun 5, 2009 at 9:13 am

Palo Alto mom, you state: "The streets may be public, but it is also reasonable to be able to park near your home."

Don't these homes have garages and/or driveways that are meant for parking by the owners. How many cars do these people have and if these people have multiple cars is there an expectation that they should have parking near their home?

Anyway, if the streets are public and open to everyone, then it is not reasonable to expect to have a parking spot right in front of your house in addition to your garage/driveway.

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 5, 2009 at 10:05 am

Anyone living near an elementary school, or secondary school, or sports parks, or community center, or whatever, complain about the parking outside their home. College Terrace is no different from those who live near Jordan playing fields, or Cubberly or Lucie Stern, or some of the populous churches, where those attending various events need to park when there is something going on there. Yes some locals can ride bikes or walk to these events, but you have to face the facts, that there will be parking outside your home. But, the truth is that the facility was there long before your bought your home and event parking was something you should have taken into account when you made your decision to live there.

If you have a driveway and a garage, then it is up to you to use them and to make sure your visitors have space there to park on your driveway while your car is in your garage.

And, I am reminded of some family members who lived in an area that was invaded once a year by a large event where parking was a premium. Most of the locals kept their cars in their garages and put up signs renting their driveways for a minimal fee. They were usually taken up and visitors to the event paid to use local driveways.

If you are enterprising enough maybe you could rent out your driveway and actually make some money out of the parking.

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Posted by Lois
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 6, 2009 at 8:05 pm

"I would like to reclaim my street and the space in front of my house" It is not your street, it is a public street with equal access to any and all people who wish to use it.

Parking permits are not the answer because they need enforcing. A Code Enforcement officer will cost the City more than the revenues collected from violators when you factor in not just salary but all the benefits and pension costs.

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Posted by Belle
a resident of College Terrace
on Jun 9, 2009 at 10:06 pm

I know this has been an issue in College Terrace for a few years and we just voted on the parking permits.

Since Facebook has moved in to its building on California Ave - I can no longer park in front of my home (a rental). Before someone pulls up google earth - I have no driveway or garage for that matter and neither do my neighbors who rent from the same landlord. I came home tonight at 5 and had to park down by College Ave for the third time in a week. Its frustrating, I'm planning when to do my grocery shopping etc.. based on when I can get close enough to the door to unload my packages. Granted the extra walking does me good but not when my hands are full.

Another issue I don't see addressed is "how" our new neighbors are parking on California Ave. Driveways are blocked, as are fire hydrants - to make a left turn from Columbia Street onto California Ave is not only difficult becuase the folks park out into Columbia on Califrnia Ave so you can't see on coming traffic - they must believe they are on a timed run from the Hanover stop sign to their parking lot - "who can get 0 to 50 before they get to the building?" I think this second part is a bigger issue that needs to address for safety and done so quickly.

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