Ohio Christian school tells student to skip prom Issues Beyond Palo Alto, posted by You're All Going to You-Know-Where!, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on May 8, 2009 at 11:09 am
Just another reason why Sarah Palin should never become President (or VP).
FINDLAY, Ohio – A student at a fundamentalist Baptist school that forbids dancing, rock music, hand-holding and kissing will be suspended if he takes his girlfriend to her public high school prom, his principal said.
Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on May 8, 2009 at 11:33 am Walter_E_Wallis is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
By that logic, I guess we better never allow a Muslim president. It sure is fun watching all the lib pretensions of equality flushed as soon as they are faced with a woman or a black or a black woman who don't toe the lib line. To "Borking" we can add "Sarahcide".
Posted by Perspective, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on May 8, 2009 at 11:59 am
Agreed...absolutely scary how quickly we descend into uninformed bigotry and hatred and call it "liberal".
Quick, let's paint an entire group with the same brush!!! The pendulum swings back. Lynch mobs, vigilante-ism, any -ism...it is still evil, no mather who the target.
Posted by A new perspective, a resident of Stanford, on May 8, 2009 at 1:08 pm
Love to see Walter wallis and Perspective ranting and raving about someone's opinion regarding a story, considering the vitriol they express in these threads regarding Obama and the democrats.
Perspective is especially hysterical in his posting. Keep it up, Perspective, your hypocrisy is exposed for all to see
Posted by A new perspective, a resident of Stanford, on May 8, 2009 at 2:46 pm
The initial poster added his opinion about Palin--that gave Wallis and Perspective the green light to launch into their rants about bigotry, lynching etc.
their postings are not relevant to the topic, but that has never stopped them from posting their rants against those that do not toe their right-wing line. I wonder if Wallis is still getting his marching orders from North Korea?
Posted by Paul, a resident of the Downtown North neighborhood, on May 8, 2009 at 2:52 pm
"The initial poster added his opinion about Palin--that gave Wallis and Perspective the green light to launch into their rants about bigotry, lynching etc."
Exactly. It's great bait, makes certain knees jerk.
Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on May 8, 2009 at 5:32 pm Walter_E_Wallis is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
I don't do vitriol nor take marching orders. I criticize foolish policies from both sides. The quality of LibLudd rebuttal on this site has really gone downhill.
Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on May 8, 2009 at 6:09 pm
There's extremists everywhere. Some Muslim extremists commit acts of terror. Some Jewish extremists put a string around Palo Alto. Some Christian extremists do foolish things too.
If one dog has fleas, do we assume that all dogs of that particular breed has fleas too?
Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on May 9, 2009 at 2:35 am Walter_E_Wallis is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
OhlonePar, better to ask when was the last time I supported a republican. That would be for Shirley Temple Black, in her primary run against Pete McCloskey. Since then I have been a patriotic libertarian, a rare bird indeed.
Posted by Perspective, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on May 9, 2009 at 12:15 pm
Wow...none of you noticed the different "extremist" definitions of Muslims, Jews and Christians?
I guess it is just accepted that extremist Muslims terrorize ( aka use murder of various types to achieve an end), Jewish extemists put string around a town, and Christian extremists do foolish things.
I would think about this, Palo Alto.
Also about your definition of "vitriol". Hilarious, coming from people who to this day call Pres Bush "shrub" and "war criminal" and make references to massacres of 600,000, Hitler and fascism.
But gosh, let's call my post "vitriol" when I point out the bigotry inherent!
Posted by A new perspective, a resident of Stanford, on May 9, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Resident says "Some Jewish extremists put a string around Palo Alto."
Still whining about the eruv--get over it it is a done deal and trust me, no one who is Muslim, Christian, athiest or holding any other belief is impacted by it.
Unless you are an anti-semite who is offended by anything Jewish
Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on May 9, 2009 at 7:41 pm
As the person who gave what I thought to be random examples of different levels of extremism, I can't believe you thought I had any ulterior motives. If I had just said that there were some extremists who were terrorists, others who hung strings and others who did foolish things I could have been asked for examples.
All peoples do foolish things, whether for culture, religion, or something else. Some foolish things harm others, some harm themselves and some on paper just seem crazy. Of course there are going to be people who say that going to the prom is starting down the path of moral decay. I feel sure that there are extremists in many cultures or religions who feel the same way. Just because one Christian school has one strict rule, you can't generalize and say that all Christians are going to agree with it. In exactly the same way, you can't say that all people who share the same religion as any one terrorist is a terrorist and that all people who share the same religion as someone who wants to put up a symbolic wall to enable them to walk around town on a Saturday have the same views.
Those who take their culture or religion to the extremes I have mentioned have to be called extremists. It doesn't follow that those who disagree with them have to be called anti.
Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on May 9, 2009 at 7:48 pm Walter_E_Wallis is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
This libertarian was there watching the people who invented the arpanet and proposed its further development by the government. While most of my relatives were civil service, the sidewinder was the only significant invention by a civil servant, down in my backyard at China Lake. Oops, and the Botts Dots. O/P, I never claimed to be mainstream. Fringe implies a grouping, and I ain't.
Posted by OhlonePar, a resident of the Duveneck/St. Francis neighborhood, on May 9, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Walter,
The government was far from incidental in the development of arpanet. For that matter, if there had been no defense industry, there would have been no Silicon Valley.
You're not the first Libertarian I've seen who conveniently disregards the role of government in the things of which he approves.
Resident, I didn't seriously mean that you were bringing back the eruv argument, I was just making a bit of a joke.
Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on May 10, 2009 at 1:00 am Walter_E_Wallis is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
I have seldom questioned the need for both a strong defense and an intrusive foreign policy - our interests are world wid and so must our influence be. Treaties should be reciprocal and benefit other nations that are nice and punish nations and QUANGOs that are not nice. I believe the Constitution defines and restrains the powers and duties of government but that ultimate authority lays in the hands of the individual.
Posted by Perspective, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on May 10, 2009 at 7:26 am
I think you need to look up what a libertarian is, OP...A libertarian is not anti-all government, just for Constitutional limits that we have already in place being maintained. Unfortunately, our federal government, like all governments everywhere; all power, really, grows into unconstitutional areas with virtually every passing administration, under the guise of changing privileges and outcomes into rights needing federal assistance and protection.
Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on May 11, 2009 at 5:44 am Walter_E_Wallis is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
A real realist [not "The Realist"] understands the physical world and history, and even recognizes the reality of the small "l" libertarian.
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