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Update on Releasing Guantanamo guys here...

Original post made by Perspective, Midtown, on Mar 26, 2009

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Update above on releasing Guantanomo prisoners here in the USA. Now we will be sure to "give them assistance" to get "back into society".

Wow. What a great Admin! May I suggest that only blue states recieve the Guantanomo prisoners since they are the ones who voted for this Admin?

Or, better yet, whichever city the people live in who determine that somoene is "innocent" and/or rehabbed, release them into THAT city. If they are so confident of the "innocence" of someone caught on the field, with a gun or detonator or bombs strapped to him, have them put their money where their mouths are and release them to their own neighborhood.

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Posted by Potus says yotus!
a resident of Barron Park
on Mar 26, 2009 at 7:41 pm

"May I suggest that only blue states recieve the Guantanomo prisoners since they are the ones who voted for this Admin?"

No.

But feel free to release them in Crawford. There's a guy living there who is to blame for our having such a legal mess with these guys. I'm sure the expotus will welcome them with open arms as an act of contrition.



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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 26, 2009 at 8:02 pm

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Why bother taking prisoners?


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 26, 2009 at 8:21 pm

no legal mess except that being created by the Dems.

1/2 of those released as "innocent" so far have been recaptured "on the field", some of them in high terrorist group command postions.

So,PSY, ya wanna take a 50% risk of living next door to a guy who lives to kill Americans? Or would you rather keep that sweet fella in Guantanamo?

Personally, I am with Walter. Somehow I am sure we have been taking a lot fewer prisoners since Nov 4. And that number will decrease even more now. But hey, I actually think that is good news. Maybe I have found a good unintended consequence of this Admin at last.


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Posted by TJ
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Mar 26, 2009 at 9:55 pm

The story of the Ulghurs from China is a very sad one. Originally there were 21 who just happened to be passing through Bora Bora when the American CIA went to capture Bin Laden.

The Americas took them prisoner because no one could understand their dialect of Chinese and they were flown to Guantanamo Bay. It has taken years for anyone to understand who they were and why they were in Afghanistan.

It turns out they were just trying to make their way to Europe to work and they got caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. They do not want to go back to China because they would be persecuted as a minority and muslims.

Four of them have been released and are living in Albania but Albania won't take anymore, so these poor guys have been languishing at Guantanamo and they had nothing to do with terrorism.

It turns out the Pakistani Army would turn over men they didn't want if the U.S. gave them $5,000 for each guy, many are quite innocent and should be released.

The problem now is that the Bush Administration has painted these guys as evil terrorists so they will not be safe from retaliation if released in the U.S.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 27, 2009 at 6:35 am

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Sorry, TJ, but the world's prisons are full of innocent folk. Our military is professional, competent and rational, and unlikely to be conned into paying for prisoners just on some warlord's sayso. We have already seen the poor innocents who went right back to the ranks of the enemy as soon as they were released. I can attest to the additional burden taking prisoners on the battlefield adds to a soldier's concerns.


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Posted by 3x5
a resident of another community
on Mar 27, 2009 at 8:42 am

IC another graduate the Jimmy Carter school of ignorance and dangerous naiveté.

If they are innocent perhaps Nancy Pelosi can have them making beds and cleaning at her hotel where she fired the union help.

or

Perhaps they can be the condom steward at Barney Frank's basement bathhouse.

There are thousands of hard working people all over the globe that have filled out the paperwork to come here to live the American dream. And now this administration is going to let terrorists jump to the head of the line? Wow.

You think the world was laughing at GWBush? Hugo Chaves has it right (amazing that I am agreeing with this thug) first Chavez calls Bush a devil and now calls Obama "ignoramus" Now the whole world is laughing at US.



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Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Mar 27, 2009 at 9:06 am

From the article that the usual gang of Obama bashers jumped on with such glee:

"Twenty men detained at the remote US naval base at Guantanamo Bay in southern Cuba have been cleared of terrorism charges, including 17 Chinese Uighurs ordered released by a US court in June, seven years after their arrest. But the US says they may face persecution if returned to China."

Perspective--these people have been cleared of terrorist charges--what do you recommend doing with them. They are innocent? Does that mean anything to you? Does what america has stood for for years mean anything to you? Or has Obama-bashing become your reason for living?

3x5--you clearly did not read the article and just decided to use it as a springboard to denigrate Pelosi and Frank. You say the world is laughing at us because we are planning to release to the US 20 men who are innocent of terror charges and would be persecuted if returned to China. If the world is laughing over that, then who are the ignoramuses? BTW--it is amazing that you agree with Chavez--but I guess Obama-bashing makes strange bedfellows--so in your eyes Chavez is evil if he denigrates Bush, but is okay when he does it to OBama? Strange set of ideas you have.

Walter--you have no problem with the execution of soldiers on the battlefield after they have surrendered--this would include US soldiers who are captured in a war?


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 27, 2009 at 11:51 am

Send 'em back to their own country, that is what we do with them. Let them apply for entry into the USA like everyone else.

1/2 of all the "innocents" we have cleared have been recaptured. If half of all "innocents" of murder in our civilian trial system here in the USA went on to murder someone, what would you think of future "innocent" clearances by the same system?

And no, I have no problem with the execution of terrorists caught on the field with the gun, the bomb, or the detonator in their hands, preferably BEFORE there is also blood on their hands. Just like I wish the guy who killed the 4 cops in Oakland had been executed BEFORE he killed them. He, like these terrorists in Guantanamo, like the ones in Abu Graib, are not and were not soldiers in uniform for a nation, they are terrorists. Marvin and the rest of you, I know it is hard for you to understand this, but every time you say it, I will help correct it.


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Posted by Carl
a resident of Meadow Park
on Mar 27, 2009 at 12:55 pm

How many of these Uighurs were part of the East Turkestan Independence Movement? China considers all such irregulars as terrorists. How many were in Aghanistan, and how many were heading there? To assume that they were merely heading to Europe for work stretches the immagination. "...happened to be passing through Bora Bora when the American CIA went to capture Bin Laden." Give me a break!

These guys are hardened Islamic revolutionaries against Chinese secular rule. They are performing their jihad. The fact that they were not part of al qaeda, per se, does not mean that they are any less dangerous. Send them back to China. We would expect China to extradite bin Laden to us, if they captured him.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 27, 2009 at 6:32 pm

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Marvin, I have taken prisoners on the battlefield where it would have been much easier to kill them, and safer to me and my buddies. I took prisoners because of the value of intelligence that was obtainable.
The enemy does not need my permission to execute our troops taken prisoner. Do you know of any enemy that has adhered even slightly to the Geneva Conventions? To my knowledge only the Nazis adhered to the convention, and even then only until it was strategically impossible. Do you have some secret method to keep a prisoner without the threat of death? My advice is to not get captured.


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