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Obama rebukes attorney general for describing America as 'nation of cowards' on race.

Original post made by Sharon on Mar 7, 2009


From NYT just in----Web Link

"President Obama has chided his attorney general, Eric H. Holder Jr., for describing America as a "nation of cowards" when discussing race, wading into a tumult that flared over Mr. Holder's indictment of the way this country talks about ethnicity."-----------

""our attorney general is black, both major parties are led by black men, the president is black."

"And yet," Mr. Tawney wrote, "we're apparently a 'nation of cowards' on race.""

Comments (8)

Posted by Holder had a point, a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 7, 2009 at 2:58 pm



"In an interview with The New York Times on Friday, the president said that despite Mr. Holder's choice of words, he had a point."



Posted by Confused, a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Mar 7, 2009 at 4:38 pm

Ok then what is the point?

What is it that he wants people he considers not of "HIS" race to do?

Now get specific, Tell us.

And to be fair I will go first.

Do you want people of my race to adopt more black children that have been abandoned by their fathers?

Your turn.






Posted by boogeyman, a resident of Greater Miranda
on Mar 7, 2009 at 4:57 pm

Bottom line, the race industry can't stop creating problems and divisions where there are none, because what would the boogeyman look like if we couldn't blame problems on white racism?

Humans hate looking in the mirror.


Posted by Holder had a point, a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 7, 2009 at 6:57 pm



What african american, or hispanic do you socialize with on a regular basis, outside of work?


Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of Midtown
on Mar 8, 2009 at 8:38 am

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

Holder was right. Obama was wrong. The academic refusal to debate Shockley's theory or Bell Curve was the act of cowards who lacked confidence in the process by which they determine truths. If you cannot accept valid data then go get a real job.


Posted by Holder had a point, a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 8, 2009 at 12:24 pm



Walter,

What is Shockley's theory?


Posted by Mike, a resident of Crescent Park
on Mar 8, 2009 at 2:17 pm

Holder-
Would you answer your own question-What african american, or hispanic do you socialize with on a regular basis, outside of work? Or if you are of one of those races in your list, would you add Caucasian or Euro-American to the list for your answer?

What role does your own race play in this? If you do socialize regularly with those of other races, is it because you sought them out, they sought you out, you had some common connection?

Is there some requirement for racial quotas in friendships (or acquaintanceships?)

Everyone I happen to know except those seeking political office do not seek out their friends by race, but rather based on common interests or from like circumstances; the race issue is for the most part ignored. The idea of listing friends by race seems to me operating in Facebook mode, with the goal being numbers, not true friendship.


Posted by Holder has a point, a resident of Downtown North
on Mar 8, 2009 at 4:07 pm



Mike,

I agree with you

"Everyone ........except those seeking political office do not seek out their friends by race, but rather based on common interests or from like circumstances"

that's why I think Holder has a point, do we socialize with other races only if we "have to" or some politician needs votes? How does someone's inability to be in our own "like circumstances" matter, should we care? If we socialized would anything change?

I am interested in Holder's point of view because he is willing to say something nobody else has talked about and I want to know if it matters.


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