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Recycling Stuff

Original post made by Alice Smith, Green Acres, on Jan 1, 2009

If Palo Alto thinks it is leading in recycling, why eliminate milk cartons and styrofoam? What we should be doing is banning these packaging products in California altogether but until we achieve that, we should at least have these disposed safely.

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 3, 2009 at 8:22 am

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Another Malthusian heard from. Ask Ehrlich about his bet on resource depletion. Ehrlich lost.
Some processes are far more efficient in mass production - ask the Chinese about their backyard steel mills. The corporation was a mechanism to amass the money needed to build a factory. Some corporations, like some governments and some people, can be bad, but it is not essential to corporate success. Corporations do influence government, but they have an obligation to survive and, as Bill Gates found out, you cannot ignore government and survive.
The message in total is rebutable and has been rebutted millions of times by the real world. As the practices decried in the jeremiad spread, the living standards and life expectancy also spread.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 3, 2009 at 9:23 am

I expect the rules will change again when PASCO is no longer with us and we have to learn a new set of rules. Old habits die hard and I for one can't bother with checking up what is and what isn't no longer allowed each time I put out recycling, just like checking library times before going to the library. My recycling will continue to carry what it always does.


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Posted by Donald
a resident of Stanford
on Jan 3, 2009 at 10:13 am

The resources/pollution/cost of recycling certain types of items may make it impractical. Since recycling is a free enterprise, these costs can be unpredicatable. If there is a styrofoam recycling plant nearby, then the cost is much cheaper than if you have to truck it out-of-state.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 4, 2009 at 10:26 am

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"Old habits die hard and I for one can't bother with checking up what is and what isn't no longer allowed each time I put out recycling,"
Have a care, res - with our new libgreenludd activist mayor, we may emulate some English towns where all waste must be put out in transparent plastic bags so recycling wardens can determine if you are following protocol.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 4, 2009 at 2:08 pm

I thought that they were banning plastic bags. Can't have it both ways.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 5, 2009 at 3:17 am

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"Can't have it both ways."
To the contrary - it is inherent in progressivism to be capable of holding and defending mutually contradictory opinions. This is a gift unique to the educated and enlightened, unfathomable by us less complete folk.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 5, 2009 at 9:05 am

Touche


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Posted by Carbon Marv'in
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 5, 2009 at 12:46 pm

You just take your 3 pounds of styrofoam to the recycling center in your 6000 pound pickup truck. I've actually watched this.



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