Palin Only Visits "Pro-America" States Issues Beyond Palo Alto, posted by Whatta Gal - You Betcha!, a resident of the South of Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 17, 2008 at 1:38 pm
According to the Washington Post, Gov. Sarah Palin "made a point of mentioning that she loved to visit the 'pro-America' areas of the country, of which North Carolina is one. No word on which states she views as unpatriotic."
Posted by Peter, a resident of another community, on Oct 17, 2008 at 2:15 pm
So much for bringing Americans together to solve our common problems. It's more of the same. You know, we're all Americans and Republicans, Democrats, and independents will have to work together and sacrifice together to deal with the our common problems: the economy; the health care system; energy; the wars; our declining status in the world; education, the whole laundry list.
The current president, who promised to be a "uniter, not a divider" failed to rally us to work together. There will always be differing opinions as to how to deal with our problems,but it seems clear to me that no one party or ideological block has the ability to solve any problem of the magnitude of these without the cooperation of the others.
It is easy to dismiss Gov. Palin as a lightweight, however she's again seeking to divide the country with her rather extreme"us against them" rhetoric that trys to appeal to the basest human instincts. That attitude must change if Americans are going rise above divisiveness and to make headway against our problems.
Painting an opponent and his or her party as "not like us" is a nasty tactic designed to raise feelings of racism and xenophobia. None of this should be deemed proper for any candidate for our nation's highest offices. It makes it even harder to deal with our differing opinions and make progress now and in the future. We've seen it happen all to often.
I am a staunch advocate of freedom of speech but I am appalled at the guttersnipes in the political parties, blogosphere, the publishing world, and segments of the media who spread lies, innuendo, and unfounded rumor claiming it to be fact.
I am not a polyanna. Politics is about winning; I just think there's a better way.
Posted by but seriously, a resident of the College Terrace neighborhood, on Oct 17, 2008 at 2:19 pm
I hear tell Obama and McCain engaged in a little levity and humor this week when both appeared at an event -- McCain laughing that Joe the Plumber would be in the right tax bracket now that a nice couple had hired him to do all the plumbing on their 7 houses; Obama saying that he was not actually born in a manger . . . How refreshing to see the old McCain and to see both behaving civilly and cordially to each other with the mutual respect they should have. McCain must be so sad that he is tied to Sarah Palin in this three-legged race. He always before seemed above her style of hate politics. Policy differences are one thing, but she is just divisive. Who does she think she is to pronounce on who is a "real" American?
Posted by Wow, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 18, 2008 at 11:56 am
I don't like it when people tell their neighbors to move because they disagree with their views. That's not much better than Palin, really, implying some states/places are "anti-American." Personally I welcome a diversity of views.
Posted by Perspective, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 18, 2008 at 12:40 pm
Wow, you are a REAL liberal. If this area had more tolerant people like you, I would remember why I moved here in the first place 30 years ago. I moved here because I actually believed I was leaving intolerance for tolerance, and came to learn ( or maybe it just evolved over the last 20 years) that this is actually a much more intolerant area than the one I left in the South. I can put an Obama sticker or shirt on there, along with my rainbow stickers and pins, and not have a single worry about my car being keyed or being beat up or called names, but here if I put on a McCain/Palin sticker or shirt, I fear for my personal and property safety.
Thanks for giving me hope. Maybe this still has some true liberals left....
Posted by Wow, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 18, 2008 at 1:09 pm
I agree there is more of a group-think here than I have found in many other places, and in some cases people aren't even embarrassed by it - "if you don't agree, you should move!" It is a troubling paradox that in the global center of technology innovation there is a culture of browbeating political conformity.
Please don't move Perspective, and please continue to speak your mind.
Posted by Wow, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 18, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Anti, I haven't seen anything hateful from Perspective. And I don't think disagreeing is a good reason to say that someone should move. How would you feel if someone told you to shut up or move out? I wouldn't like it much.
If you disagree, or think someone is dead wrong, that's fine, say it, say it with force. But they are still your neighbor, and will continue to be after the election. Telling people who think differently to move is the ugliest face of group-think - only people who think like us allowed. We're better than that.
Posted by OhlonePar, a resident of the Duveneck/St. Francis neighborhood, on Oct 18, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Perspective can live where ever she wants, but as a native Californian, it's irritating to hear yet another emigre whine about how the state doesn't live up to his or her particular California dream.
California doesn't owe you anything, Perspective. And if you find it too racist, sexist, etc. then why do you live here? Why make yourself unhappy? Heck, for that matter, why not just move to a more red part of the state if you like the weather here?
I mean someone like Gary seems to like being the right-winger in a liberal crowd--just because of what he's said about people he hangs out with. But if you really find this area a bastian of intolerance and fear for your well-being if you put a John McCain bumper sticker on your car why make yourself miserable?
Posted by Wow, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 19, 2008 at 8:50 am
Don't blame the victim - the peer pressure to conform is very strong here and I don't doubt there are extremists who think a little "harmless fun" is appropriate to make that point. Look at the hazing at Paly - if kids thinks this is ok, just for nothing, it is not hard to see political zealots doing the same or worse and thinking it is ok. We would all benefit from more open-mindedness around here.
Posted by Perspective, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Oct 19, 2008 at 9:15 am
Ummm...OP, frankly, CA owes NOBODY anything..but the problem I have is that many Californians and Americans in general think that everybody "richer" owes something to them, and there is no tolerance for the idea that this thinking is bad for the spirit and bad for the country. Seems to be more prevalent in this area than in the flyover state and the southern state I lived in.
There is also, as kindly pointed out by Wow, a tremendous bigotry involved against those who have something other than a D after their name on the registered voter list, and/or those who disagree with the group think. It astounds me every time I turn around I hear about those "______" ( fill in the blank) Republicans or Christians or Bush supporters, yet nobody would even dream of saying such things about ANY OTHER group of people. And people laugh at really hateful jokes about violence against people who think like me. It reminds me of 30 years ago being a dyke in the south and listening to appalling jokes about lesbians and what would "cure" them. Yet, here, nobody thinks twice.
Check yourself next time you want to say a "they" statement with a judgement conclusion. Substitute African-American, or Asian, or Muslim, or Democrat or Socialist in your statement, and see how it sounds to you. Next time you are in a group of people, and one of you is just back from a vacation in, say..Utah or Louisiana, or is moving to a "red state" or "redder area" of Ca, and everyone feels free to comment on the "rednecks" and the "lack of intelligent conversation" of the area, .....think about the bigotry involved.
I am equally appalled at the 'fruitcakes and nuts" statements I here about Californians when I travel to the South and have to defend us against such sweeping generalizations based on a few prominent nuts we DO have here.
Whining? Ok, if you want to call it whining, I don't care. But, look in the mirror the next time you laugh because a kid is called a "racist" because she wears a Palin shirt in school...and ask yourself WHY DO THE OTHER KIDS THINK THIS IS OK? Could it be that our culture here, most parents and teachers, local "entertainment", media,etc accept such close-minded claptrap?