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McCain playing the "I'm outraged" card

Original post made by The Real Sharon, Midtown, on Oct 13, 2008

McCain fulminating:

Web Link

I suggest that everyone read Frank rich's op-ed from sunday's NY Times:



You do need to be a NY Times online member to read it, but it is worth your while.

Bottom line, McCain and Palin should be ashamed of themselves for their rhetoric the last couple of weeks. McCain should stop his "outraged" act andthink about why Lewis said what he sais.
I at one point thought that McCain had character, ethics and a moral compass. I was wrong. Palin--no surprise from her considering her pattern of deceit.

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Posted by The Real Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 13, 2008 at 3:54 pm

Link to Rich's NY Times article:

Web Link

You will need an online membership to read it all


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:30 pm

Of course, you must factor in that Frank Rich is one of the most blatant Obama/liberal supporters in the already very biased NYT. And I am a NYT subscriber, so I know from reading it regularly, not just from someone's posting of a single article by Frank or his fellow writers.

I would be shocked if Frank wrote anything but this kind of opinion.

If anything, McCain should be asking people to recognize Obama for the socialist that he is, and that his adult career mentors and buddies are. The pattern of associations that Obama always initially answers as 'people he hardly ever met' is compelling.

Anything that is said negative about Obama must from the liberal point of view be racist. The repeated play of the racist card by Obama's minions, from a stacked deck. In the words of liberals everywhere-shame!But I guess it does play well to the party faithful, and those living on the Democrat plantation.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:35 pm

McCain is doing what he does very well as of late - whining.



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Posted by OhlonePar
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 13, 2008 at 4:43 pm

Mike,

Trying to paint Obama as an Arab terrorist is racist and xenophobic. Period.

Non-racist attacks would deal more with things like his experience, judgment and actual policies.

I don't think the McCain campaign started out as racist at all. I don't think McCain, personally, is a racist. But in its desperation, the McCain campaign has taken on a pretty scummy version of negative campaigning.

And McCain had to have known on some level that it could end up this way--after all, he hired the people who engineered the smear campaign in the South Carolina primary in which his adopted Pakistani daughter was alleged to be his bastard black child.

And, yeah, that rumor campaign helped him lose that primary.


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 13, 2008 at 5:37 pm

If you have read the article the link goes to, I don't see how you can accuse McCain of (as above) "trying to paint Obama as an Arab terrorist"

Are you blaming McCain for a few extremists or fools who attended his speech? Do you want to see some of the kinds of fringe types Obama will find in his camp? This link contains content from YouTube, not made up stuff.

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Posted by to Mike
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 13, 2008 at 5:46 pm

"Are you blaming McCain for a few extremists or fools who attended his speech?"
No-- In the article, Frank Rich writes "...at least McCain and Palin can try to take some responsibility for the behavior of their own supporters in 2008. What's troubling here is not only the candidates' loose inflammatory talk but also their refusal to step in promptly and strongly when someone responds to it with bloodthirsty threats in a crowded arena. "

Rich accuses McCain/Palin of something more serious: "The McCain campaign has crossed the line between tough negative campaigning and inciting vigilantism, and each day the mob howls louder. The onus is on the man who says he puts his country first to call off the dogs, pit bulls and otherwise."


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 13, 2008 at 5:58 pm

Rich accusing McCain of anything negative is a given.

You need to find more credible individuals than Rich who think that "McCain has crossed a line". Citing Rich as a source is like asking Howard Dean what he thinks about it.

"Each day the mob howls louder"??-look at the link I posted above to see some real howling from Obama supporters...

By the way, what do you think is going to happen in South Central LA, Detroit and Washington DC if Obama loses this election?


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Posted by to Mike
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 13, 2008 at 6:23 pm

First you imply that McCain is being unfairly blamed for who shows up at his rallies. The answer was no, but he could act responsibly and discourage their outrageousness when it occcurs right in front of his face.
Your retort consists of blaming Obama for what extremists collect on their websites. I doubt he's even aware that such a collection of trash exists.

You're straddling a fence of hypocracy, Mike.


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 13, 2008 at 6:25 pm

and look at this video of a McCain town meeting and tell me if you think he is not actively stepping in to counter supporters who are not even reaching the 'howling mob' stage...do any of you people who think Rich is right actually look for evidence yourselves, or do you just allow blatant manipulation by partisan advocates and Dem talking points?

Web Link


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 13, 2008 at 6:55 pm

read this

Web Link

and see if you think Obama might be complicit-you exonerate Obama for web sites (and TV appearances, and posters and stickers, etc) by people that he is not aware of, but you blame McCain for statements or yelling by people at his rallies that he does not know either. I believe you have personally defined hypocrisy by your own argument (and this is the correct spelling for hypocrisy, not 'hypocracy').

Obama has publicly told his followers to get up 'in the face of Republicans and argue with them'. The result is protests that disrupt the free speech of McCain and other Republicans and their followers.

Should Obama be held responsible for disciples who are doing their interpretation of his orders? Or is McCain in your view the only one who has to be responsible?


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Posted by but seriously
a resident of College Terrace
on Oct 13, 2008 at 7:24 pm

The fact of the matter is that McCain needs to put a muzzle on his pitbull. Watch Palin with her inflammatory remarks -- she overtly smirks when one of her remarks elicits a "kill him" or "terrorist" or similar remark. When you smile at people who call out for assassination of a presidential candidate, you are crossing the line. Incitement to criminal acts is unconscionable even if you don't commit those acts yourself. But then to affect outrage when you are called on your incitement is disingenuous in the utmost.


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Posted by to Mike
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 13, 2008 at 7:27 pm

Uh, Mike, did you even read Rich's article? The blue type are called hyperlinks. If you click on them - and there are plenty on his page - it'll lead to supporting articles and videos which describe or show members of McCain's or Palin's audience shouting things like "Treason" "Off with his head" or even "Kill him". Click on a few, if you dare. Try this one Web Link which disputes your assertion that McCain is unaware of what's being shouted at his rallies.
"McCain asked the crowd "who is Barack Obama?" Immediately you hear someone yell "terrorist." McCain pauses, the audience laughs, and McCain continues on, not acknowledging, not chastising, not correcting."
About hypocrisy – I may not have spelled it correctly, but I can spot it a mile away. Pick your position and apply it evenly. I don't hear you acknowledging that McCain and especially Palin have room for improvement. Does this imply that it's acceptable in your opinion for Obama to stoop to their level?


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Posted by Give McCain Some Credit
a resident of Monroe Park
on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:08 pm

McCain does have a conscience and has finally "called off the dogs."
On the other hand, Palin is a combination next Joe McCarthy / Bush Gitmo commander. She's a much bigger threat to this country than Saddam ever was, that's for sure.


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Posted by OhlonePar
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:21 pm

Give McCain,

But is McCain saying something because he feels bad about it or because he's gotten such bad press and no pull jump from it?

I *don't* think McCain likes running a smear campaign--but I think he's trying anything not to lose.

As for Palin . . . the woman's too clueless to even realize how unqualified she is.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 13, 2008 at 10:34 pm

McCain knows perfectly well what he's doing. He's desperate and getting desperater - how could he face his country club crowd if he loses to, you know, "That One"?



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Posted by Polls
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Oct 14, 2008 at 7:30 am

McCain called off the dogs because his polls numbers were going down and he was losing conservatives. He wants to win, anyway he can. At this point he will try anything.

McCain won't ask Obama about Ayers in the debate because he doesn't want the public to hear a direct response. Palin won't have another one-on-one interview before the election. Neither wants to answer questions about their attacks.




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Posted by Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 14, 2008 at 7:53 am



Most of the incidents st McCain rallies where the result of obama supporters acting as outside instigators, it is common tactic with far left wing groups like ACORN, Kos, DU etc as well as the pro abortion and ACTUP crowds see Web Link

In Lake County, Indiana, ACORN turned in 5,000 new registrations.
The authorities there started reviewing them, and quit after they found that the first 2,100 were all fraudulent.
The mind boggles: ACORN turns in thousands of new registrations, and not a single one represents a legitimate voter.


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Posted by The Real Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 14, 2008 at 8:49 am

Boy, Sharon, we are getting desperate now--saying the McCain/Palin zealots that are shouting for him to be killed are really Obama supporters.
As we get nearer to the election, we see how desperation is setting in with people like Sharon


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Posted by tj
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 14, 2008 at 9:14 am



Barack has some nasty skeletons in his closet Web Link

"The ENQUIRER exclusively reports a "sex pervert" was Sen. Barack Obama's longtime mentor and "father figure".

For seven years, the presidential candidate had a "father-son" relationship with Frank Marshall Davis, who has confessed to having sex with children, sadomasochism, bondage and practicing a wide array of deviant sexual activities."


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Posted by raise the bar
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Oct 14, 2008 at 9:49 am

You're using The ENQUIRER as a source?? Your credibility has just plunged.


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Posted by Benjamin
a resident of Stanford
on Oct 14, 2008 at 10:06 am


From UK Telegraph Web Link

"Frank Marshall Davis, alleged Communist, was early influence on Barack Obama
New details about a black poet in Hawaii who was a key early influence in Barack Obama's life can be revealed by The Telegraph.

It has also been established that Mr Davis, who divorced in 1970, was the author of a hard-core pornographic autobiography published in San Diego in 1968 by Greenleaf Classics under the pseudonym Bob Greene. "



This article is highly credible and cause for concern


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Posted by The Real Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 14, 2008 at 10:10 am

Benjamin--why is it cause for concern? what does this have to do with the election now? Is everyone that McCain/palin associated with above reproach?
Maybe we need to look more into who has influenced McCain/Palin and who they have been associated with (we already know about the Keating 5 and the Alaska separatist group)
Come back when you have something real, Benjamin.


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