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Exclusive: Barack Obama is 'aloof' says British ambassador to US

Original post made by Sharon, Midtown, on Oct 2, 2008



Barack Obama is a "decidedly liberal" senator "who was finding his feet, and then got diverted by his presidential ambitions", according to a frank verdict delivered to Gordon Brown by the British ambassador to the United States. Web Link

"Sir Nigel traces the ambition of Mr Obama, 47, to reach the White House right back to his 20s or before. "He has talked at least since the 1980s about a shot at the Presidency."

He also identifies several political vulnerabilities that Sen McCain will seek to exploit in the last month of his campaign against the Illinois senator. The leaked letter will provide him with welcome ammunition.

Mr Obama "can seem to sit on the fence, assiduously balancing pros and cons", Sir Nigel wrote, and "does betray a highly educated and upper middle class mindset". Charges of elitism "are not entirely unfair" and he is "maybe aloof, insensitive" at times.

"He can talk too dispassionately for a national campaign about issues which touch people personally, eg his notorious San Francisco comments [in April] about small-town Pennsylvanians 'clinging' to guns and religion."

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Posted by Danny
a resident of Crescent Park
on Oct 2, 2008 at 3:31 pm

No offense Sharon, but you have WAAYYYY too much time on your hands.


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Posted by The Real Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 2, 2008 at 3:48 pm

"The candid letter, marked as containing "sensitive judgements" and requesting officials to "protect the contents carefully" gives a remarkable insight into how the Foreign Office views the political phenomenon who stunned Mr Brown's inner circle by defeating their favourite, Hillary Clinton, in the Democratic primaries. "

Clearly certain republicans have no morals or ethics--anything is fair game to attack Obama with. Note that the letter was confidential


What Sharon also forgot to post:
"Although the picture Sir Nigel paints is a highly complimentary one - Mr Obama's speeches are "elegant" and "mesmerising", he is "highly intelligent" and has "star quality" - he also judges that his "policies are still evolving" and that if elected he will "have less of a track record than any recent president"."

Clearly the republicans are on the run. they are in panic and grasping at any straw. The above post and the attacks on tonight's debate moderator are a sure sign that the republicans see the end is near. Tonight after Biden turns the Barracuda into lipstick smeared sushi the end will be even more evident


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Posted by pd
a resident of Barron Park
on Oct 2, 2008 at 4:01 pm



The article also states

"Curiously, there is no mention of his wife Michelle - a central figure in his rise and his closest adviser - and little examination of his time in Chicago,
where he had radical associations,
or his background in Hawaii, essential to understanding why "Obama is cool", as the letter puts it.

Sir Nigel detects a potential clash between Downing Street and an Obama administration over Iran.

"If Obama wins, we will need to consider with him the articulation between
(a) his desire for 'unconditional' dialogue with Iran and
(b) our and the [United Nations Security Council]'s requirement of prior suspension of enrichment before the nuclear negotiations proper can begin."

BTW here is the whole secret letterWeb Link_

So much for UK security, every week some leaves top secret info in a bar or on a train


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 2, 2008 at 4:18 pm

This letter should scare Obamites more than Republicans. It shows that the British ambassador sees him as a rookie, very maleable, and open to persuation and manipulation.

Sarah Palin would be a much tougher opponent for the Brits to face. She has judgement, and neither Obama nor Biden have it.

If Obama and Biden get elected, they will be putty in the hands of the Europeans. The Brits will be giddy on their gin and tonics, as they devise ways to lead them by the nose.

Frankly, even though I am voting for McCain, I might enjoy the circus! At least it would provide a near guarantee of a conservative victory in 2012. Not to mention all the laughs and gaffes and sumersaults along the way!


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Posted by The Real Sharon
a resident of Midtown
on Oct 2, 2008 at 4:25 pm

Well, Gary you sure have an active imagination, Of course if one buys your scenario, you could say that the british would be getting revenge for the way Blair was led around by the nose by Bush et al.
Good laugh about Palin being a tougher opponent and her having judgement. I do not think she knows where Britain is.
As for Obama/biden being putty in the hands of the europeans, that sounds like another fantasy the republicnas are cooking up to try to jump start their sinking fortunes.
Let's face it Gary the real problem you have with Obama/biden is that they are democrats. Good to see that you are still maintaining your clueless facade as you have in numerous threads on this forum. Probably the only person in the US who knows less than you is Palin


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 2, 2008 at 4:43 pm

While Sharon and Gary take their election cues from elite foreign dignitaries, I prefer Yankee common sense.



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Posted by tj
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Oct 2, 2008 at 4:45 pm



Reading between the lines the Brits see obama as naive, arrogant and still wet behind the ears.

Which is correct, what they neglect to see is that his friends in Chicago are thugs, felons and terrorists and that he has always been a front man for a gang of mobsters, if he goes against their interests well, we know what they do from "Goodfellas" the movie


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Oct 2, 2008 at 4:50 pm

Real Sharon,

Just as an example of how Obama is in the deep end of the pool, and cannot tread water, he actually stated to his German kid rally that he expected Germany to step up to the plate in Afghanistan (suddenly, no applause was heard). Put simply, Germany will NOT contribute fighting troops, because they have none! Not only that, but Germany refuses to take any serious responsbility in Afghanistan. Obama is a complete rookie. Palin would stick it to the Germans, perhaps with some feminine persuation, and she has the judgement to kick their ass, economically, if they do not spend more on their military.

Please remember, and I have stated this many times on this forum, Barack Obama will reinstitute the draft, becasue he will panic, and then realize that he is naked with all the foreign commitments that he has made. Let's hope that is all it is (overpromosing). It will be hell to pay if Putin reads him like Khrushchev read JFK...remember the Cuban missle crisis, the result of a very weak JFK?


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Posted by Bring Back The Draft? Hell Yea!
a resident of Professorville
on Oct 2, 2008 at 7:00 pm

Gary:
I do hope Obama re-institutes the draft - that will mean we'll only enter into wars that we really have to (Afghanastan), rather than one's that are someone's folly (Iraq).


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Posted by Hum
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Oct 2, 2008 at 7:45 pm

Bring back the Draft?

It seems to me we had the draft when we went into Vietnam, a totally useless war, a "folly" as you say, just as much as Iraq...

As to Obama's aloofness, I agree. He's obviously a big arrogant snob. So is GW Bush. As hard as he tried to hide it by looking like he was the guy next door, GWB's arrogance still came through during the 2000 campaign... But people did not care to look.

In my opinion, Obama is to the democrats what GWB was to the Republicans. An arrogant man, full of himself, with little real world experience, and not good news for this country. God help us.


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