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by Sharon Tong, Woodside,
on Jul 29, 2008
Yes, stop this war. Iran is our real enemy.
I am pleased that the commentator admitted that the Iraq war was not a whim of George w Bush, only a continuation of the UN war against Iraq for their criminal invasion of Kuwait.
While "Smart" bombs reduce collateral civilian damage, their effect is not enough to save civilians when cowards fight their war from behind civilian shields and from schools, hospitals and mosques.
The concept of illegal for an action that was initiated by the United Nations Security council and approved by the majority of the General assembly and the US Congress is baffling.
Al-Qaeda, if anything, has been remarkably consistent. IF the US Media would do it's job, Americans would know that Iraq was the first step in a world-wide caliphate.
Al-Qaeda was drawn to GWB's bait precisely because it was their game plan from day one. Afghanistan is a giant nothing.
Iraq has oil, a sea port, infrastructure, etc.
The sad fact for American liberal wiener-heads is that GWB has won in Iraq.
He's pulled it off.
The left calls Bush an "idiot", yet Bush has won Iraq.
This victory won't do for Obama as there's no way he can fold himself into it and bask in the success.
Barack chose to align himself with the far-left anti-war crowd betting on American failure.
American success has him scrambling in recovery mode.
Again the American press refuses to report intelligently on Al-Qaeda. America is quite happy to see Al-Qaeda holed up in the mountains again, as Afghanistan is of no strategic value and Pakastani nukes are easy enough to guard.
GWB has not only killed their fighters, but more importantly he has broken their financial network.
Al-Qaeda leadership can boast and make threats via video, but they can't actually do much. GWB, by enlisting world support, has reduced Al-Qaeda to "all hat and no cattle" - in Texan-speak, i.e. just a shell of it's former self.
"While "Smart" bombs reduce collateral civilian damage, their effect is not enough to save civilians when cowards fight their war from behind civilian shields and from schools, hospitals and mosques."
That means those smart bombs were deliberately targeted against civilians. Tell me this Walter: suppose you are taken hostage - are you going to tell the SWAT team to shoot right through you to get the bad guy? Or will you hope they are more accommodating of your life?
Brilliant!! Just declare victory and say we've won! GWB has killed them off, no more threat!! Mission accomplished!!
That being the case, lets bring our troops home immediately!!
We are a lot more careful about who we kill in this war than in WW2.
We killed almost a million innocent Germans and almost a million innocent Japanese in firebombing cities.
War is war, the sooner we win and get it over with the better for everyone.
These people weren't innocent. They supported their governments.
If someone was using me as a shield while shooting others, I would expect anyone with the capability to kill him even at risk to my life. A reluctance to shoot back because of civilian shields will just insure more civilian shields. Sometimes you have to make hard choices.
How about we end it by killing all the bad guys and winning?
That's how wars are ended..otherwise they are just put off to become bigger and uglier.
this is not an atrocity of our troops, but of the animals who use innocents as shields. If we quit, the animals win and become more dangerous.
When you visit a prison you assume the risk of being taken hostage and not being negotiated out of danger.
You assume the same risk in a war zone.
Also most of the Germans and Japanese killed in the carpet bombing of cities were women and children, they did not support the governments particularly the children.
War is hell, the best thing is to win quickly and decisively.
"When you visit a prison you assume the risk of being taken hostage and not being negotiated out of danger. You assume the same risk in a war zone."
Neat. Just stay out of war zones, huh? So when were the Iraqi civilians offered this option? Did Cheney/Bush/Condi/Rummy conduct a secret poll in which the Iraqis opted to be in a war zone?
War is won by absolutely crushing everything down range.
As for the video Truth alert: Truth spoken @ 5:48 - 5:59
"War is won by absolutely crushing everything down range"
Saddam Hussein's motto, when he had the ability to crush, and which he did to the Kurds after they obeyed GHW Bush's call to rebellion and Bush left them to their fate.
How come so many people on this forum hate Saddam for practicing what this forum preaches?
Paul what's with the hate talk? I see here a conservation in reality and history.
Saddam earned what he deserved and in the end was richly rewarded with the appropriate rope.
As for your faux association with that quote to Saddam you are yet again displaying your ego's illusion that you are an educated man.
To help with your educational enrichment try this Dartmouth paper on for size.
Please do be careful not to stub your toe on the big words.
I believe the operative word is "touche," CI. Please calm down.
First the war lovers tell us how ruthless Saddam was. Then they accuse me of misquoting him when I use a quote (which I never attributed to him) to characterize actions that the shock and awe crown claims to hate when Saddam did them, but then advocates for its own use. Do you see the utter confusion in all this? Or shall we simply admit that ethics and morality are situational? (Liberals used to be accused of preaching that.)
And finally, don't even you find the logic in "he earned what he deserved" more than a bit dizzying?
If John McCain has his way we'll be in Iraq for the next 8 years at least. You know the most important person running in the Presidential election will be John McCain's running mate, because he may be President for a very long time.
You know you Vietnam era hippies are pretty funny. Here is something that you can discuss with your connection and think about as you pack your next big bong load. The US will be in IRAQ for longer than we have been in Germany and Korea combined. That is fact you can take to your nearest FDIC insured bank. The reason is a simple one word answer, Oil.
Now you may be thinking O-B-A-M-A and my response would be: ok? He will stay in IRAQ as well as McClueless, or any other presidential wannabe. The difference is McClueless will tell you and O-B-A-M-A will not.
Your options are to snap up those bong futures contract for it will be a long long long long time if ever that we leave IRAQ.
The US supplies the surrogate soldiers for the managers of our politicians in China.
Peace out Dudes and Comrades
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