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Mtn View Library closing for one month renovations.

Original post made by Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jan 30, 2008

It seems that the very new and up to date library in Mountain View needs some renovating and technological updates. This means that their library will be even better than ours and we will remain in the Dark Ages while they move even further ahead!!

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Posted by GSB
a resident of Mountain View
on Jan 30, 2008 at 3:06 pm

Yea, MV!


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Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jan 30, 2008 at 3:15 pm

But remember, we must maintain 5 branches at all costs, otherwise the city council and library dircetor will incur the wrath of the "anti-change/progress, let's keep things as they have been in PA for the last 50 years regardless of what is good for the city" crowd


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Posted by dark ages
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 30, 2008 at 3:15 pm

Didn't Los Altos just change their check-out system recently? The scanners are different.

Seems everyone around us is moving ahead, while we spend our money maintaining 5 outdated facilities. But, gee, we've got FIVE of 'em, so we must be better.


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Posted by Lois
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 30, 2008 at 4:05 pm

Close the branch libraries, then we'll have the money to update and bring Main and Mitchell into the 21st Century.


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Posted by Anna
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jan 30, 2008 at 4:55 pm

Many of these changes (like RFID integration) will be incorporated into the Palo Alto Library.

Please note that due to the fact that Mt. View does not have branches, Mt. View citizens will effectively be *without* library service.

Yes, indeed, our branches are starting to look even better, now that this additional advantage has been discovered.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 30, 2008 at 5:00 pm

Not so, Anna,

Mt. View library patrons can use a book mobile for their needs while the renovation is ongoing. Just like the patrons of 2 of our branches could just as easily.

Don't be smug. Our libraries are in no way more advantageous.


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Posted by Anna
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jan 30, 2008 at 8:12 pm

Resident, There is a big difference between a bookmobile (gasp!) and a nice, warm, cozy branch. I wonder how many story times they'll hold in the bookmobile.
btw, since when, assuming the Mt. View branch reopens soon, will they be able to hold 4 simultaneous story times in their library, as we can in our branches?

What percentage of the Mt. View population can easily walk to to their library, compared to Palo Alto.

How many Mt. View school kids can walk to a branch after school, compared to Palo Alto kid?

and on, and on...

No advantages to branches? Time for a personal reappraisal of your view on that matter.


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Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jan 31, 2008 at 7:49 am

While it may be nice to have 5 branches, it would be nicer to have even more branches so that all neighborhood residents could walk to a library.
Unfortunately PA can not keep up the quality of services in all 5 branches. Our libraries are hopelessly out of date and inadequate.
Of course, many people will say that the citizens of PA constantly say that they want to keep 5 branches. I am sure if you asked the citizens of PA, they would also say they would like free meals delivered to their home also. The problem with library surveys is that no one asks about the cost.
The bottom line for me is: 5 branches=no vote on any library bond.


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Posted by Nick
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jan 31, 2008 at 8:18 am

Until the branches are closed it's a 'NO VOTE' for a library bond for me too, and for a lot of other residents in this city who feel the same way.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 31, 2008 at 8:48 am

Anna

Your ideal is only beneficial in the case of a closedown because we have two decent libraries, both situated reasonably close to middle and high schools and parks which make them great for after school proximity and the fact that if one had to be closed for renovations then the other could take the slack.

As for storytimes, instead of having five in one day, we could have one each day so that parents had a choice of which day to attend rather than having to miss Church or some other activity to attend the one time deigned suitable for all.

I rather think that more people drive to libraries (or at least bike) to our libraries presently than walk. So that idea is moot.


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Posted by prof. librarian
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jan 31, 2008 at 9:49 am

Sounds like Mountain View, as is typical of the city, is moving forward in an intelligent way with their library services and operations. I haven't been by lately, but in past have been impressed with their services and staff. Sometime in past I had occasion to be slightly acquainted with their professional staff, and I recall they were all highly qualified people who were working efficiently and effectively without facility issues.
Bring Palo Alto up to date by doing a major overhaul of Main and Mitchell, keeping Children's, of course, and closing the others.


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Posted by Anna
a resident of South of Midtown
on Jan 31, 2008 at 10:00 am

Marvin: "While it may be nice to have 5 branches, it would be nicer to have even more branches so that all neighborhood residents could walk to a library."

That's not in the cards, but already a far larger portion of our citizens can walk to a library than in any other city.

I guess you don't value walkability; that's out of step with most Palo Altans.


Nick: "Until the branches are closed it's a 'NO VOTE' for a library bond for me too, and for a lot of other residents in this city who feel the same way. "

The branches are going to stay, regardless. Also, not *enough* citizens feel the way you do to defeat the bond. Citizens are already finding out what's needed, and why. The response to that has been overwhelming.

Please make a t-shirt that advertises your "no" vote, and see how many frowns you generate.


Resident: "As for storytimes, instead of having five in one day, we could have one each day so that parents had a choice of which day to attend rather than having to miss Church or some other activity to attend the one time deigned suitable for all.'

We do that, too. Sometimes there are simultaneous story times, and sometimes there are sequential story times.

Yes, we DO have a WONDERFUL branch system; it serves so many Palo Altans, and daily visitors (including Mt. View) citizens extremely well. We are the envy of the Peninsula. Kids, parents, and seniors love our library, and they will happily vote up a bond, as well as support our library with private donations.







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Posted by dark ages
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 31, 2008 at 10:37 am

"We are the envy of the Peninsula."
What are you smoking, Anna? Pipe dreams? I never hear anyone in neighboring cities say that they patronize Palo Alto's libraries in lieu of their own. Are there statistics available which show where library patrons live? I'd like to see a comparison of Los Altos, Mountain View and Palo Alto. There are more of us heading out than the number of them heading in. Envy of the Peninsula, indeed!


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Posted by Marvin
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jan 31, 2008 at 10:55 am

Anna: You say "I guess you don't value walkability; that's out of step with most Palo Altans."

You are right I do not value walkability, however I do not think I am out of step with most Palo altoans. I see plenty of PA citizens running around in their cars.
I think that walkability is a "cute" phrase that many residents like to throw around, but really has no bearing on the reality in our city--i.e. do we have a library we can walk to in each neighborhood, what about a shopping center/ If we did how many citiznes would walk with their groceries?

If you want, make me the "no" T-shirt and I will proudly wear it. Frowns from others based on my personal opinion do not bother me.

5 branches=no vote on any bond measure


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Posted by Martha
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jan 31, 2008 at 3:20 pm

i love my branches....fix the library and more people will visit


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Posted by Terry
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 31, 2008 at 4:16 pm

Martha, what branch do you go to min Charleston Gardens?


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Posted by where do I buy the Tshirt
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jan 31, 2008 at 4:58 pm

"fix the library and more people will visit"
Which one? We've got 5 of them. Each one is costing us money. And now they're threatening to cost us the bond.


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Posted by confused
a resident of Midtown
on Jan 31, 2008 at 6:06 pm

I like more small branches, I like walkability.

But I don't know what libraries are for anymore. I know that 23 studies say we can become rich quick by investing in them, but still something is missing...

At one time, say 2000 years ago, a library was a place to physically go to in order to read what was there to read. 100 years ago and 10 years ago it was a place to go to physically borrow a shared artifact; nice to go to because it's easier and perhaps more pleasant to browse the artifacts.

Now, we can get read more stuff than was accessible via libraries 10 years ago on the internet. More stuff than is accessible via artifacts in libraries now on the internet.

I think now, libraries' essential "value-add" to our city exists to the extent that they function as modern community centers, after-school centers, cultural centers, internet access centers or in other recently evolved roles.

So I think more branches are better, for their potential of offering a variety of service in this age of evolving service, for walkability, and because I like smaller places with fewer people.


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Posted by Check it out
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jan 31, 2008 at 6:19 pm

Confused - go visit a nice library - Redwood City, Mountain View, even the modest Los Altos branch. Look at all the people there, look at the meeting rooms, event rooms, coffee shops, large book and video collections for browsing and borrowing, etc. A lot of people want that; circulation is going up and visitors are frequent (I go with my kids every week - I just can't get them to read their books online ;-).

A Starbucks with wifi may work for you and maybe for others too. Maybe Starbucks can provide it - let's give them College Terrace and Downtown branches to operate and charge them rent. For the others who want bigger collections, more room, meeting and exhibit space, etc., lets build them nice big Main Libraries.


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Posted by Anna
a resident of South of Midtown
on Feb 1, 2008 at 12:53 am

Libraries as equity anchors...financial and social equity

"Nashville is one of a growing number of cities that are moving away from the traditional view of library as cost center.

Rather, local officials and politicians, under whose collective purview libraries fall, are seeing them more as equity anchors, as investment magnets that help expedite the revitalization of a neighborhood or community.

"We're in the midst of a great $115 million expansion," says Nashville Library Director Donna Nicely. "We've built five new branches, and we have this glorious new downtown library because we have a mayor here, Mayor Bill Purcell, who believes in the role libraries play in the community. We believe libraries can be the community's foundation." Nicely says that Nashville's downtown development group, in charge of devising a plan to energize Nash-ville's downtown area, used the library as one of the main points to sell its plan. Already, Nicely says, the downtown area has seen increased foot traffic. "People are beginning to pop by," says Nicely, "and I think we can credit the library with that. There's a new café and plans for another café nearby."

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