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Attic fire on Kipling causes damages, no injuries

Original post made on Aug 20, 2013

No one was injured in a residential fire that occurred on the 3300 block of Kipling Avenue Monday afternoon.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, August 20, 2013, 10:38 AM

Comments (6)

Posted by katie, a resident of Crescent Park
on Aug 20, 2013 at 10:43 am

Great job PAFD. An amazing group of Men and Women who don't get the credit they deserve!


Posted by Hooray for firefighters, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Aug 20, 2013 at 1:44 pm

Firefighters never get the recognition they deserve unless they are killed in the line of duty--when it is too late


Posted by S. Coen, a resident of Crescent Park
on Aug 21, 2013 at 10:28 am

Nice work Palo Alto Firefighters. Hey everyone out their who supports our firefighters, how about listening to them about their concerns with the current Fire Chief who doesn't have a clue about how to operate a fire department or know how to get rid of bad managers who come to work and earn over $120,000.00 and do not do their work and then someone else has to clean up the mess. What ever happened to performance reviews for them and why are we paying them such a high salary if they cannot do their job.Turns out this guy is looking more for a City Managers job then being a Fire Chief. His own managers seem to be puzzled with is inability to listen to them in regards to operational procedures even including the possible loss of the Stanford University contract which would mean a 30% loss of the Fire Department budget if Stanford decides to have Santa Clara County Fire Department take over the fire contract. Also the closure of any fire station in our city if someone calls in sick or is on vacation and that fire station then becomes under manned. I believe that our Police Department is also having similar issues except that the Police Chief is highly regarded and supported by the police officers. Too bad that's not the case with the fire chief.
Our firefighters work hard, are well educated, are their for us 24 /7 unless they close a fire station, and even though our city may not have alot of fires, it is because of their training and location of all our fire stations that allow for a quick response to extinguish a house fire quickly like this one that they got to quickly. Thanks again Firefighters.


Posted by PA Firefighter, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Aug 21, 2013 at 10:53 am

This Fire Chief is destroying a great fire dept. Palo Alto Fire Department was once the department that other Firefighters were hoping to join. Now, after a few years with Palo Alto, Firefighters are leaving for other cities. Even Captains on the dept are testing with other cities. What does this tell you when you have have promoted personnel wanting to start over with another dept. Not to mention the cost of training a new Firefighter and then having them leave. Sad!


Posted by Midtown Dad, a resident of Midtown
on Aug 21, 2013 at 12:57 pm

It would seem to me that if the overpaid [portion removed] Palo Alto firefighters already don't like the new Chief who has been here less than a year, then I would say the Chief is doing an outstanding job! It's about time that someone reigned in the firefighters. Bravo Chief, Bravo! By the way, the fire that was put out is one of only less than a half dozen actual fires this year. Time for the PAFD to behave more like a modern fire department focusing more on EMS than fires that rarely occur due to modern building codes. If the PAFD turned this corner, then maybe they would be a top notch department once again. Until then, they will deteriorate like other old boy network departments. Keep doing what you are doing Chief!


Posted by S. Coen, a resident of Crescent Park
on Aug 22, 2013 at 11:26 am

Mid town dad,
[Portion removed.] The Fire Chief is supposed to be the Leader in supporting the Firefighters with good up -to -the date idea's but this is not the case. The Fire Chief is doing what the Assistant City manager wants him to do. Not what he knows is the correct thing to do. He knows that shutting down a fire station EVEN for one 24 hour period will jeopardize the city and he knows that it will cause a longer response time but it is what the Assistant City manager wants because she does not like the firefighters and if the Fire Chief does not do this then she will find someone else who will. His responsibility is to do HIS job as the Fire Chief without the Assistant City Manager telling him how to run this Department. The Fire Chief knows what is right and what is wrong. If you want to see a good fire department then look at Santa Clare County Fire Department. They have successfully merged with many other communities and have provided excellent fire protection at a lesser cost, but still with the best manning. That is why Stanford is now considering having The County Fire Department take over the fire protection contract that is currently provided by Palo Alto. Yes EMS is a big part of what any fire department provides and Palo Alto has always been at the top with their own paramedic ambulances but fires still and do occur and they still happen in buildings that have sprinklers and even modern building designs DO not stop fires from happening so Fires are still the priority in every fire department across the country. Why don't you Mr.Midtown Dad go over to your local fire station and talk with the firefighters and ask questions. They are just like you and me. Fathers and mothers,men and women who also pay taxes and own homes and know from years of experience how and why a fire department operates and they know and are always open to new ideas and what the negative sides are to each. From talking with them I have come away with a new and better understanding to see that they are smart and do know how to operate our department even in a financial rough time. I have heard first hand about the failure of the City to really listen to the firefighters and just listen to their own management people who are afraid to tell the City Council and the City manager the truth.
If you want a fire chief who is willing to shut down a fire station and reduce the firefighters daily manning levels to save money KNOWING that this may cause a major delay to your home for a fire call or medical emergency then be happy. When firefighters leave to go to another city they are not going because of better pay or benefits , in many cases they will actually see a drop in pay and benefits , it is because they have had enough of the negative articles and lack of support from the City Council, The Fire Chief, and this Assistant City Manager who dislikes the firefighters. Your idea that it is good that firefighters leave will jeopardize our community because we are loosing the experienced firefighters that we need. These are the people who train our new folks and are up and coming leaders who know the "tricks of the trade". When they leave we have only inexperienced firefighters who will be able to handle medical calls but not the fires or rescues or hazardous chemical calls. Our firefighters make the same or even less then firefighters in the Santa Clara County Fire Department, Santa Clara City, San Jose, Mountain View. It has nothing to do with any money or benefits. It has everything to do with a lack of support. [Portion removed.]


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