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Still upset about bag ban

Original post made by Resident, Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jun 18, 2013

Phase II comes into effect on July 1 and I am still upset about this. This ban is not right and the charge for paper is not right either. Web Link

What about our newspapers, can they be put in a bag or will they have to get wet?

What about dry cleaners, will our clean clothes have to be put in paper at a 10c charge?

What about buying expensive suits and dresses, will they have to be put in paper - in the rain?

I miss my plastic bags which I reused all the time. Great for putting messy shoes after sports. Great for kids to take swim things to school for PE and keep the backpacks dry. Great for packing shoes when traveling. Great for using for trash. Great for donating home grown fruit and veg to neighbors and friends. Great for donations to charity and kerbside pickups. Great for donations to Goodwill.

Sad news, indeed.

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Posted by blame the slobs
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Jun 18, 2013 at 9:30 am

If the slobs didn't keep throwing their plastic bags into our streams and oceans, this ban would not be necessary. Ask your local park rangers how many bags they had to fish out of the baylands before this ban went into place.

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Posted by CrescentParkAnon.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jun 18, 2013 at 11:17 am

> Ask your local park rangers how many bags they had to fish out of the baylands before this ban went into place.

Ha ... that's a good one! I rarely see a park ranger in the baylands ... and I go out there all the time, let alone a park ranger that would fish a plastic bag out of the water. This interesting statement sure is not in line with what I see when I go out to the baylands for a walk almost daily.

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Posted by anonymous
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jun 18, 2013 at 1:44 pm

I have been to a dept store (Macy's, probably) in recent times with several relevant experiences:
As is occasionally done by most of us, I purchased a pair of lady's shoes (in a box with lid). I was offered to purchase a large paper bag with handles (that customarily used to be given out without issue).
I have tried several things:
Clunkily carry the box/loose lid and try to show a receipt (so someone doesn't think I am walking out w/o paying) - be sure to get them to print a receipt. Decline a bag.
Method #2 - PAY for the offered bag and find out they are giving you a used, wrinkly bag (that is then hard to re-use as I would have always previously done in many years of shopping at dept. stores and receiving bags..)
Method #3 bring my OWN bag, clunky to bring in when clothes and shoe shopping and trying to keep folded under my arm -- and not necessarily a good fit for those of us who are tall and have large-sized shoes.
I haven't experienced yet what will happen when it turns out to be raining and I (and thousands of other women) are exiting Macy's or similar, holding a couple of hangers with nice, new dresses on them and trying not to get our newly purchased items wet as we run back to our cars in the parking lot.In past, one could get the items carefully folded and placed in a large paper shopping bag with handles OR covered with plastic (like drycleaning plastic). I would always recycle or reuse such bags.

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Posted by Adapt
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2013 at 2:11 pm

I've been using reusable bags at grocery stores for the last three years. Took me a few weeks before I remembered every time to bring them into the store. And then to take them from the house back to the car. But it's a routine that we'll all adapt to and will soon become normal to us.

My peeve is that Trader Joe's at T & C always double-bags for no apparent reason. If it is because one bag is heavy, it's better to just separate the heavy items and use two separate bags. The handles can only hold a certain amount of weight.

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2013 at 2:53 pm

Adapt - we have adapted at grocery stores.

But it is not grocery stores that we are talking about now. We want to get our nice new clothes from Macys, our dry cleaning, and our newspapers home without getting wet.

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Posted by Adapt
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2013 at 4:44 pm

@Resident: Then buy a fashionable plastic bag. Same thing as grocery totes.

And if plastic bags are necessary for packing, we can buy Ziplocs at the store.

There's always an answer to this issue.

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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jun 18, 2013 at 5:02 pm

Resident - if you're that worried, why not call some places & find out how the business owners plan to handle it?

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Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jun 18, 2013 at 5:02 pm

You can buy a lifetime supply of "take-out" plastic bags at Costco.

Done. Next subject.

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Posted by Third Generation
a resident of Jordan Middle School
on Jun 18, 2013 at 6:44 pm

People are way too spoiled in this nation. That's why there is so much obesity, laziness, and people expecting government handouts. That's why immigrants see this as a land of opportunity. Because it is as long as one works hard.

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 19, 2013 at 8:50 am

Many stores do not know what to do about some aspects of this crazy law.

We got take out recently and it was bagged in both paper and plastic in case the juices ran out. That apparently is OK as far as one restaurant, and not at another.

The Weekly is now delivering newspapers without plastic bags.

Dry cleaners don't know how the law affects them. The clerks at Macys etc. haven't been told about suits and dresses on hangers.

We are still getting plastic bags delivered for food collections, and little plastic bags with advertising still appears on our driveway.

Ziplock and Glad are probably laughing in glee as they get their products sold to take up the slack of the previous freebies. Perhaps it is time to buy stock as their profits are likely to soar!!

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Posted by Outside Observer
a resident of another community
on Jun 19, 2013 at 1:19 pm


"Ziplock and Glad"... I think you're getting to the real reason behind this, and many other "Green" laws.

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Posted by PA Bag Owner
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jun 19, 2013 at 4:57 pm

Crescent Park Dad says: "You can buy a lifetime supply of "take-out" plastic bags at Costco."

After the new bag regulations were headlines in the Daily Post I immediately went down to Costco and bought a package of 500 plastic bags to line my garbage can in the kitchen. To my amazement I was just one of 5 Palo Alto residents searching for the right size plastic bags at Costco!!!

So they ban stores in Palo Alto from supplying plastic bags and we all go down to Costco in Mountain View and buy our own supply!!!! This is sooo dumb I can't believe it!!!!!

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Posted by Not an issue
a resident of Community Center
on Jun 19, 2013 at 5:02 pm

That is what happens when our city council bows to the wishes of the environmental zealots in our city ( of course we know who they are-- a few are former councilmembers) . And then they cannot deal with thereal issues!!!!!!

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