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Officials propose Addison school boundary change

Original post made on Dec 21, 2012

Palo Alto school officials are recommending shifting the boundary between the attendance areas of Addison and Walter Hays elementary schools, due to persistent "overflow" problems at Addison in recent years.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, December 21, 2012, 8:41 AM

Comments (16)

Posted by Nick, a resident of Midtown
on Dec 21, 2012 at 11:29 am

What are the CURRENT boundaries for Addison School?

Posted by any more info, a resident of Crescent Park
on Dec 21, 2012 at 11:57 am

Does this mean that we can get rid of the bubble classes at Addison?

Posted by any more info, a resident of Crescent Park
on Dec 21, 2012 at 11:58 am

Current school boundaries: Web Link

Posted by Hays mom, a resident of Walter Hays School
on Dec 22, 2012 at 8:27 am

The bubble classes will probably still be at Addison and Hays because of over-enrollment until they open the 13th elementary school. What this means is that hopefully not as many kids will be overflowed from Addison to Hays. If you move into the new boundary area you will be assigned to Hays as your neighborhood school.

Posted by Mom, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Dec 24, 2012 at 12:00 pm

Families in north Palo Alto would not have to worry about their children getting a kindergarten spot in their neighborhood school if the Tinsley program students were placed in the south Palo Alto schools that are under-enrolled.

Posted by palo alto mom, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Dec 24, 2012 at 1:44 pm

The District spreads the Tinsley kids equally thru the schools.

Posted by Hays mom, a resident of Walter Hays School
on Dec 24, 2012 at 3:11 pm

The Tinsley kids are not equally spread through the schools. It is based on racial make-up and space and therefore Hays ends up with a disproportionate number. The Tinsley students are placed after Priority 1 registrations but any neighborhood kids coming in over the summer will be bumped by a Tinsley student. Fair? Absolutely not. Will the district do anything about it? Absolutely not.

Posted by palo alto mom, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Dec 24, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Hays mom - the Tinsley kids are actually placed before any other students. Here's the order: Tinsley kids, siblings of current students that live in the neighborhood area, neighborhood kids, students out of the neighborhood with siblings in the school, staff kids, then a bunch of misc. (neighborhood being the enrollment area).

Web Link

Posted by mattie, a resident of Crescent Park
on Dec 24, 2012 at 8:11 pm

So, if I'm reading the map correctly, you can literally live across the street from Addison and have it not be your school?

As a whole, I don't know enough to be for or against. [Looking at the map], it does seem an obvious improvement to the proposal to extend the Kingsley line to Guinda, and then turn it right. Or maybe just cut it at Middlefield. Going to the same school as your pals is the big plus of neighborhood schools, and fewer jagged boundaries maximize that.

Posted by Mr.Recycle, a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Dec 26, 2012 at 12:18 am

@palo alto mom That's just the placement order when a school is over enrolled. It doesn't mean that Tinsley students are equally spread out. I have no idea how they are distributed, but it does seem like Hays gets more because it has more space.

Posted by shouting distance to Addison, a resident of University South
on Dec 26, 2012 at 10:45 am

so living on Kingsley and Webster, where we can literally hear the kids on the Addison playground from our windows, kids would go to Hays? I can't quite tell what happens to Kingsley from this line, but I really question turning a 1 1/2 block safe walk to a Middlefield crossing. Perhaps main road crossings should be considered a little more closely here.

Posted by numbers game, a resident of Crescent Park
on Dec 27, 2012 at 4:56 pm

According to the "official enrollment figures for 2012-13, including data on ethnicity and on the number of students who have been "overflowed" from their neighborhood schools due to lack of space", Tinsley kids are evenly spread out at around 5-6% of each elementary school.
There is only one elementary school that stands out as having an under-representation of Tinsley students and that is the Mandarin Immersion program, which only has one Ravenswood student across all grades.

Posted by Hays Mom, a resident of Walter Hays School
on Dec 29, 2012 at 8:19 pm

PA Mom - that's what I was trying to say. VTP students are placed after Priority 1 registrations based on space. If the school is over-enrolled the provisions that you posted go into effect.

If you look at the Board Packet from October 9th you'll find the numbers of VTP students at each school. Hays has the most at 42. Palo Verde has the least with 12. Not completely space-based, but it has a lot to do with it.

Posted by Damn kids get off my lawn, a resident of Crescent Park
on Jan 7, 2013 at 2:56 pm

I agree that the Walter Hays school should be for the Walter Hays kids (and we know who they should be) and we should send those Tinsley kids back wherever they came from, or at least to south Palo Alto which is basically Mountain View anyway. Hey that's a great idea...let's unincorporate Mayfield and Barron Park and just have Palo Alto like it was in the golden age, before all these outsiders sued us and caused problems for our schools. We never had an achievement gap before those VTP kids came to PAUSD and now we're just being punished for our good deeds.

Posted by Paly Alum, a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Jan 7, 2013 at 8:41 pm

I agree, Tinsley is taking the valuable spots from our Palo Alto residents. It was fine when PAUSD was underenrolled.

While there are some Tinsley students who are nice and come from nurturing families who support their children academically, the majority of Tinsley students are not assimilating. My children would prefer to work on projects with students who are engaged and can meet after school or on weekends to work on the project. The Tinsley students are bused and oftentimes have no transportation to meet.

Posted by Damn kids get off my lawn, a resident of Crescent Park
on Jan 8, 2013 at 10:39 am

Yeah, sharing is for wimps and losers. Let's bus those kids with bad families back wherever they came from. My brother is not my problem. I sm hwicng troubso typing with this mote in my eye.

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