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Voter Suppression Attempts in San Mateo County?

Original post made by Hmmm, East Palo Alto, on Nov 6, 2012

Peninsula Interfaith Action (PIA) is reporting that a group called Election Integrity Project will be deploying "poll observers" to polls in language-minority and student communities in San Mateo County asking people if they have their Drivers License or Social Security Card with them. Neither of these are required in order to vote. Asking someone about them is a form or voter intimidation and suppression. This group is targeting very specific counties in CA and ours is one of them. Has anyone here heard about this group or see them at any polling place?

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Posted by VoxPop
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 6, 2012 at 12:04 pm

It's an organization founded by Judicial Watch, a right-wing organization that has received millions of dollars from foundations tied to conservative billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife since the start of 2001. Although it defines itself as non-partisan, this organization operates as a platform for the conservative Heritage Foundation, the right wing Breitbart.com, and the Tea Party groups True the Vote and the non-profit iCaucus. Do a search on them, there's lots of information on the Web.


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Posted by resident
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Nov 6, 2012 at 12:09 pm

Interfering with the right to vote should be a Federal crime. Lock them up and throw away the key. This is not a game.


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Posted by Jimmy
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 6, 2012 at 12:15 pm

All voters, at walk-in voting places, should be required to have state-verified identification, period. It should be VERY difficult to attempt voter fraud!


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Posted by voting RIGHTS
a resident of Los Altos
on Nov 6, 2012 at 12:22 pm

"It should be VERY difficult to attempt voter fraud!"

WHAT voter fraud? What attempted voter fraud?

Can you point to ANY arrests and convictions for voter fraud in our county?

Fear is a very tactic.

All polls should be open from Saturday throught Tuesday. Make it easy for all Americans to exercise their constitutionally protected rights.

Watching people in line for hours, around the country, makes us look like a third world nation.


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Posted by resident
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Nov 6, 2012 at 12:26 pm

Until states are required to issue IDs to all residents, requiring voters to own state IDs are just a scam to suppress voting. Drivers licenses are not required if you do not drive (and lots of voters do not drive).

Voter eligibility should be verified when you apply to vote, not when you actually vote.


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Posted by Jimmy
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 6, 2012 at 12:49 pm

>Voter eligibility should be verified when you apply to vote, not when you actually vote.

How would that work? I could lie about my name and address. I should need to PROVE that I have passed a state-level identification hurdle. The purity of the vote is essential to trust in the democratic system. Once this trust is lost, it is a slippery slope to the barricades.

>Can you point to ANY arrests and convictions for voter fraud in our county?

Can you show me any serious attempts at verification of the idenities of all the voters? How can there be arrests, unless there is a credible standard?

This is a no-brainer. All voters should be requird to prove their citizenship and location. It is basic to democracy. If this is not done, it is a form of voter suppression, due to the erosion of trust in the system.




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Posted by voting RIGHTS
a resident of Los Altos
on Nov 6, 2012 at 1:04 pm

So "Jimmy" cannot point to any voter fraud. Since he has no case, he asks others to prove a negative.

There ya go folks.

"How can there be arrests, unless there is a credible standard?" There is a standard. It's called the "law."

Look it up.

I do agree with Jimmy about "no-brainer".

Most Americans want everyone to vote. Conservatives, since Wierich in the 80's, want the fewest to vote.


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Posted by Jimmy
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 6, 2012 at 1:38 pm

>There is a standard. It's called the "law."


Not if the law is not enforced. The law states that citizens, only, can vote, and then only if they live in the precinct. If there is not proof of citizenship, and location, there can be no enforcement of the law.

No brainer.


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Posted by voting RIGHTS
a resident of Los Altos
on Nov 6, 2012 at 2:42 pm

"Not if the law is not enforced."

What???? The law IS enforced, you and the fringe just think there are legions of illegals voting, and there aren't! Just because you want to spread fear of some silly bogus right wing talking point that has no basis is reality, doesn't mean the law is being broken.

You have no proof, because it isn't actually happening, so you play silly word games.

There is virtually no voter fraud.


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Posted by Jimmy
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 6, 2012 at 8:34 pm

>There is virtually no voter fraud.

You have zero basis to make this statement.

Analogy: There are a bunch of home thefts, in a given neighborhood, but the citizens of that neighborhood don't bother to report those thefts to the police, because they don't think it will matter, because the cops won't bother to pursue the thieves. Result: The official resposne will be that that there are no thefts reported, and it is not a problem.


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Posted by Team BLUE
a resident of Palo Verde School
on Nov 6, 2012 at 8:41 pm

">There is virtually no voter fraud. You have zero basis to make this statement. "

Yes, we have far greater basis for that statement than your claim "there is voter fraud".

By the way, your guys lost tonight. Big time.

Life is good.

Congratulations PRESIDENT ELECT Obama. And all the new Democratic Senators, including Elizabeth Warren, Tammy Baldwin, etc... While the numbers didn't change too much, the senate just became FAR MORE PROGRESSIVE.

See ya later Todd Akin, Mourdock, and Scott Brown!

Life is really good.

Great job, team blue, great job!


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Posted by resident
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Nov 6, 2012 at 8:58 pm

Unlikely that the voter supression people in California were trying to affect the presidential election, since Obama was way ahead in California. More likely they were trying to bias some of the anti-corporation propositions. Hard to tell if they were successful right now.


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Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 7, 2012 at 11:22 am

Back to the original post...

So did this happen or was it just a rumor? Any sources?

Thanks.


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Posted by Overwhelm Suppression with huge numbers
a resident of Mountain View
on Nov 7, 2012 at 11:28 am

America says goodbye to two of the craziest representatives: Allen West and Joe Walsh. Michele Bachman hangs on by a thread.

America welcomes some of the most progressive senators around:
- Sherrod Brown wins handily despite $40 million spent against him by Karl Rove.
- Elizabeth Warren reclaims the Kennedy seat!
- Tammy Baldwin becomes the first openly gay senator! From Wisconsin, which also voted against Romney (great work, Paul Ryan!)
- Democrats pick up 2 senators over the GOP when they were supposed to lose the senate.

Democrats have now won the popular vote in five of the last six presidential elections (only loss was 2004)

Barack Obama wins big time, preserving ObamaCare forever and naming the next couple Supreme Court justices.

Sometimes, overwhelming numbers defeat voter suppression. Last night was such a night.


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Posted by resident
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Nov 7, 2012 at 12:09 pm

From the Redwood City Patch:
Two 'Thugs' Try to Intimidate Redwood City Voters
Web Link


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Posted by Ducatigirl
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 7, 2012 at 1:23 pm

In all the time I have lived in Palo Alto, I have twicw been asked for my CDL; both times I had forgotten my voter guide, which is acceptable s voter ID.

However, when I lived in the East Bay for seven years, I was asked for my CDL in addition to my voter guide. The reason given by the pollworkers was always that there had been several attempts of voter fraud in Alameda County.

I do not know San Mateo County, other than Menlo Park, but could it be that there have been attempts at fraud there? Or that there is excessive worry about attempts?


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Posted by Overwhelm Suppression with huge numbers
a resident of Mountain View
on Nov 7, 2012 at 1:43 pm

Ducatgirl: if there were actual instances of voter fraud, one side otr the other would have been trumpeting it far and wide, as well as had the district attorney involved.

Voter Fraud is non-existent, a red herring to try and drive down legitimate voter participation.

Hence: unpatriotic.


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Posted by Ducatigirl
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 7, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Well, something smells fishy. Is it paranoia, or, God forbid, unpatriotic behavior?

BTW, Elizabeth Warren is my hero.


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Posted by resident
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Nov 7, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Voter intimidation is always fraud. That goes double when the intimidators are not election officials. The two men in the news report ran off when local election officials spotted them and called the police.


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