Bain, Mitt Riomney and Meg Whitman Paul Losch's Community Blog, posted by Paul Losch, a resident of the Community Center neighborhood, on Feb 25, 2012 at 5:08 pm Paul Losch is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
I am of the opinion that Bainies, as they are called, are not well qualified for political office.
I have worked as a client with the Bain folks on the consulting side, and I hold them and my epxerience with them in very high regard. Met Meg Whitman when she was there, never met Mitt Romney. The Bain people with whom I had close interaction, including current EBay CEO John Donahoe, were just great people.
Perhaps they are too highly trained in how to manage clients, and think it is the same as managing voters. For good and for bad, when Bain is consulting for a company, there will be manipulation by the Bain folks. Bain is very good at corporate politics.
It does appear that such skills do not translate into effective national politics in the case of Mitt, or a run to be Governor of California in the case 1 1/2 years ago in the case of Meg. They both have been lfat-footed in the campaigns for high public office.
Don't get me wrong, both of these people are very effective and succesful executives, and have had a positive impact on things in which they have been involved.
Like both of them, I have a Harvard MBA. I have been turned down for jobs over the years because I was not viewed as "qualified," or had the "right relevant expenrience." I got over it.
Meg got a similar rejection letter Novmeber 2010, and Mitt will get the same, most likely in the general election in November.
Posted by C Geb, a resident of Atherton, on Feb 25, 2012 at 5:45 pm
Mitt is SO very uncomfortable as a politician.
I sincerely would love the opportunity to talk, host a dinner, sit around a fire at the grove drinking with him (okay, assume as a minister in his church he doesn't drink....) He would be/is obviously intelligent and fascinating. On a one to one level, he's downright charming. I've heard this about him over and over.
On stage? he's like a nervous nelly on a first date, constantly putting his foot in his mouth, because he feels the need to keep speaking when he runs out of things to say....
"Ann drives a couple caddies"
"The trees here are just the right size" (twice this week) The list goes on: "who let the dogs out" etc...
I'm guessing he also isn't "handled" well. Being in an empty stadium, etc.. He' gives an okay speech with the teleprompter but flounders without - averages a couple unforced errors a week.
Mitt: quit trying to be the Joe Sixpack side of George Bush. You're a successful wealthy man. Live it.
Release your last ten years of returns like Chris Christie advised and get on with it.
We don't care about your fleet of cars in the half dozen mansions spread around the country. That's half of the homes McCain had in 2008, fercrissakes.
Posted by Sam, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Feb 25, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Mitt saved the Salt Lake City Olympics. Barack Obama would have been like a deer in the headlights, if he had to face the same challenge. Take away Barack's teleprompter, and he is reduced to a clown.
Romney is superior to Obama, in almost all zones...except the clown act. If Romney wins the nomination, he will have an easy walk over Obama, because he is so much more talented as an executive and leader.
Posted by C Geb, a resident of Atherton, on Feb 25, 2012 at 7:09 pm
Mitt was bailed out in Salt Lake using earmarks and bragged about them. Santorum called him on it.
$1.3 Billion in our tax dollars saved Mitt's bacon. He bragged how he only spent $3.5 million on five lobbying firms to get some of the earmarks. In his book, Turnaround, he wrote that he directed his chief Washington lobbyist “to bring in more federal funding than had ever been appropriated for any Olympics, summer or winter.”
He reiterated all that as a selling point when he ran for governor of Massachusetts: "I was successful... got record funds from the federal government...."
Your: "he will have an easy walk over Obama"
Don't strut too much. Mitt makes too many unforced errors. The campaign makes too many mistakes and miscalculations (like centering everything on a worsening economy.) If he was that great a campaigner, he would have had this all sown up after he won both Iowa and New Hampshire. He's virtaully lived in those states for 6 years. The good thing about living there is he will take Iowa this year, normally considered a toss up.
Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2012 at 9:14 am
Since you have the honorary distinction of being able to write a community blog for us, you should at least learn to edit your leading post.
You may have some local expertise to blog on local matters, being on the Parks and Rec as you so often tell us mere mortals who just live here, but what gives you expertise on national politics?
I suggest you keep your community blog on community issues and leave national politics as a separate issue.
Now, to get back to community issues, what do you think about 5 libraries in town, or poor supermarket and other shopping in town, or poor public transportation in town, or poor traffic efficiency in town, or any myriad of issues that affects our community directly and could be covered in a community blog?
Are you going to run for city council or is Parks and Rec the sum of your political ambition?
Posted by C Geb, a resident of Atherton, on Feb 26, 2012 at 10:13 am
Walter and Perspective have to ignore the subject, Resident ignores the subject and attacked the poster.
That would be like a librul changing the subject to: "why elect the Republicans, they increase the size of government more than the democrat party" theme and using the recent Bush terms as evidence, along with Ronald Reagan and G H W Bush.
I think Romney is a deeply flawed candidate, as was Whitman, even though both are steller in their private worlds. I think the poster is on to something that I happen to agree with: CEO's do not run good campaigns, they don''t allow themselves to be handled well, either they don't have advisers that will (or allow them to) stand up to the candidate. I think Bloomberg, even with his success in winning as mayor, would also fail on the national stage. Trump's a sad joke.
Senator Santorum or one of the unannounced prospects would be a far better general election candidate and have a much better chance at taking back the White House.
Posted by C Geb, a resident of Atherton, on Feb 26, 2012 at 12:05 pm
Aren't we all allowed to start a new thread, such as he did in sharing his experiences with Whitman and Romney?
Referring to my previous post, I included a lot of opinion and not much fact. Fact: Romney is doing far worse than he did in 2008, even against his own record. He has lost states he won in 2008. He has much lower vote totals in many states this year compared to the same states in 2008.
He and the rest of the field are part of a sad enthusiasm gap for conservatives this year. We may rail against Obama out loud, but we're not showing up in the primary states.
Maine had 5,000 primary voters in a state of 1.3 million.
Is it the message? is it the candidates? is it the organization (for the party as a whole, the state parties or the individual candidates' organizations?) is our only advantage left the ability to fund our candidates, to outresource the opposition?
The Grand Old Party is in a sad state of affairs if they can't get us out to vote or caucus for our choice on whom to run for the Presidency of the United States of America.
Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2012 at 12:26 pm
I have nothing against Paul sharing his political views, just against him sharing them under a community blog. He can share his political views in a new thread about Issues Beyond Palo Alto and I am quite happy. His community blog, is his alone, by courtesy of the Palo Alto Weekly, and I would like him to discuss community issues, as he has done in his other thread started today on ABAG.
If you don't understand what I mean look at the blue writing under his title at the top of the blog.
Posted by C Geb, a resident of Atherton, on Feb 26, 2012 at 12:35 pm
Blue? Sorry, I'm colorblind in my later years. But I think I get what you're referring to. It obviously is an important distinction to you. Perspective and you are quite cognizant of the word "community."
Posted by VoxPop, a resident of the Old Palo Alto neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Resident, what possible difference does it make what Mr. Losch's blog heading is? It is the equivalent of an opinion piece in a newspaper or magazine. He can say whatever he wants. Frankly, national or even international events often affect our community.
You seem to regard yourself as expert on many things; in fact you post on many forums about many subjects with no more claim to expertise than Mr. Losch...in fact often with much less.
Mr. Losch at least attempts to serve his city in his public office, and should be praised for his sense of civic duty, not flogged with nonsense. Have you done anything more than whine about the inadequacies of Palo Alto? Have you run for office or organized campaigns for change?
Posted by C Geb, a resident of Atherton, on Feb 27, 2012 at 10:07 am
"The overall subject was the suitability of candidates for public office. "
Actually, Walter, if you read the original post, it really isn't that broad, about any candidates for any office. It's about the CEO candidates in general, and by extension it's effect on the sad state of affairs in the Republican primary.
Trashing Obama is fine, but why bother in this thread? If the party doesn't find a real candidate that can beat him, you'll have 5 more years to trash Obama. How does that sound? A real GOP candidate should be up 10 points over Obama in national polls by now. They're running unopposed against Obama and have had the spotlight on them for many, many months. The Obama campaign won't kick in for months. Yet few polls show a GOP candidate beating Obama, even with all the positive effects of being at this point in the election cycle favoring the GOP.
Conservative voter apathy is a real problem. In my opinion it is linked to this kind of candidate that cannot run a good campaign.
Evidence? Easy to find everyday with the Romney mismanaged campaign. Mitt's appearance and the boos accompanying same at the Daytona 500 yesterday. From the Times Web Link
"Mr. Romney’s Florida trip might have seemed like an odd, if confident, detour from states that will be voting on Tuesday. But Michigan has an ample share of Nascar fans. And the campaign hoped that images of Mr. Romney at the speedway would circulate widely through the Southern states that vote on March 6.
But the crowd initially booed Mr. Romney, who occasionally struck a discordant note, as when he approached a group of fans wearing plastic ponchos. “I like those fancy raincoats you bought,” he said. “Really sprung for the big bucks.” And when asked if he was a fan of the sport, he mentioned that “I have some great friends who are Nascar team owners.” "
Like being asked: Hey Mitt, do you like movies? A: "my friends own movie companies."
Goes out of state just to insult NASCAR fans? once again, badly prepped and managed. Name dropping that you hang with millionaire owners only exacerbates his image problem.
Walter - if it's this candidate in November, be prepared to insult Obama for a long time.
Posted by John Hand, a resident of the Adobe-Meadows neighborhood, on Feb 27, 2012 at 2:28 pm
oh Lord, will you forgive me, for I cannot resist.... who could?
Santorum denounces Obama during Cumming rally
CUMMING, GA -Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum spoke to an overflow audience at the giant First Redeemer Church in Cumming Sunday night during what was billed as a ‘God and Country’ rally.
Posted by Kilt and nothing, a resident of Menlo Park, on Feb 28, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Mitt Romney, February 18, 2007:
"When there was no real contest in the Republican primary, I'd vote in the Democrat [sic] primary, vote for the person who I thought would be the weakest opponent for a Republican. [...] I'd go in their primary, just like a lot of other folks, and voted against the person who I thought was the strongest Democrat. [...] So, yeah, as an independent, I'll go in and play in their primary, but I'm a Republican, and have been through my life. [...] But a registered independent, so I could vote in either primary."
Mitt Romney, January 28, 2012:
"In my state of Massachusetts, you could register as an independent and go vote in which—either primary happens to be very interesting. And any chance I got to vote against Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy, I took."
Mitt Romney, Feb 28, 2012:
"It's outrageous to see Rick Santorum team up with the Obama people and go out after union labor in Detroit and try to get them to vote against me. [...] Look, we don't want Democrats deciding who our nominee is going to be. [...] I just think it's outrageous and disgusting. [...] This is reminiscent of the dirty tricks of the past, and it's got to end, and I think Rick Santorum has a lot of explaining to do."
The reason Michigan's primary is open this time around - it was supported by certain candidates. Guess who wanted independents and liberals to vote for him? "According to a Michigan Republican State Committee (MRSC) member, Romney backers in statewide Republican leadership roles, including the governor and attorney general, pushed for an open Michigan primary. These open primary rules allow voters to vote in either party’s primary without declaring any party affiliation." Web Link
Can you say "backfire" Mitt?
I knew ya could....
(with apologies to Mr Rogers....)
Mittens is so LAME. I hope Frothy beats him in MI tonight.
Posted by Anon., a resident of the Crescent Park neighborhood, on Feb 28, 2012 at 9:07 pm
I agree, Mitt Romney is in this race for a reason, and whatever it is it is not for the benefit of the American people who do not seem to matter to him. I acknowlege his world view has some upside and logic, but this is not where I want the country to go, and as America goes we push or try to push the rest of the developed countries to follow, and they do not want to follow the US.
Most people want more human values in our government, not just the almighty dollar, and most peolpe feel that those who have the most of the almighty dollars in large part did not accrue their fortunes on merit but by a now institution form of bribery and corruption, and edging out the American people in favor of dirty tricks, marketing and slick advertisements.
Posted by Mac Barnes, a resident of the Crescent Park neighborhood, on Feb 29, 2012 at 12:12 pm
Mitt squeaks by last night, winning his home state where the Romney name is king, by a piddling 3 points. Amazingly inept:
- spent almost $5 million in ads this last week in a state he once led by 30 points
- even with the 5 mil, Mitt probably only splits the delegates from Michigan with Santorum, may even get less than half. So there is good news, at least!
- Mitt won MI by almost 10 percent four years ago. That's gotta hurt.
- can you imagine Bill Clinton almost losing Arkansas? Or a Bush losing Texas? Or Jeb Bush losing Florida? (side note - if Mitt is the general candidate and loses Florida, it's game over - no way for our party to realistically win without Florida.)
- it's like Charlie Sheen losing an election in a Hooters - wouldn't happen.
- did ya listen to his "acceptance" speech???? Worst speech ever! The guy can't speak without a teleprompter - Senator Santoum's speech highlighted the clear differences between the two - one guy can talk from his heart, the other has used a teleprompter in every speech since he flubbed his Iowa mumble, er, "speech". He has to use the teleprompter to remind him which side of the issues he is on that day. He's a fraud trying to buy the primaries and failing to even do that in a satisfactory manner.
But hey! the trees are just the right size - Mitt told us so, along with a thousand others - inside a 75,000 seat stadium! What an inept bozo. At least his wife has the coupla caddies and his buds own nascar teams. Quite the amazing campaign, able to seize defeat from the jaws of victory.
Mitt still hasn't won 50% from any state, even with the reduced field.
Get out Mitt. You can't beat the incumbent and that's the only argument you ever had. No one wants you if you can't win.
We need another candidate.
The Senator or a new candidate must emerge from this wreckage. Even Newt would be better, at least he can debate.
Posted by Perspective, a resident of the Greater Miranda neighborhood, on May 20, 2012 at 9:33 am
Kilt: I can't wait for Romney to fire Obama and every single one of his hires, a la Clinton. ( None of this Bush "reach across the aisle and keep most Clinton employees" stuff!! I am DONE). The Bain way of restructuring to save most companies is sorely needed at our Fed level.