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Original post made by Walter_E_Wallis, Midtown, on Jun 22, 2011

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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jun 22, 2011 at 12:20 pm

This story if from Fox NEws and the lawsuit was brought by the American Tradition Institue.
Does this suit have any merit? only time will tell. Of ocurse their is a question about the agenda of the ATI--
Web Link

"ATI has strong ties to global warming denialism. Its executive director previously worked for the Heartland Institute, an Exxon-supported organization that sponsors an annual climate change denialism summit. And its senior litigator has written such books as Red Hot Lies: How Global Warming Alarmists Use Threats, Fraud and Deception to Keep You Misinformed."

Not surprised that our local right-wing republican has decided to run with this story. this fits his agenda.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 22, 2011 at 3:37 pm

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

That's local libertarian, svatoid. And, locally, LEFT wing republicans. I doubt you could find a right wing republican in California.
Exxon gives more money to warmists than to denyists because they have to keep cred on both sides. This is true of most energy companies. It is indisputable, however, that Hansen left his objectivity in the garage when he went a'trolling for dollars. His little black box climate predictor would match any carny sharper. All it lacked was relevance.


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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jun 22, 2011 at 3:43 pm

Please note Walter's title for his thread "EXPOSED"!!!!
what has been exposed--nothing!!! We have a lawsuit from an organization with an agenda--of course in our local right-wing republican's book, that makes it a fact.

Also note Walter's other comments:
"I told you so. Hansen was a liar and a cheat who enriched himself with "adjusted" science."

Walter has found Mr Hansen to be guilty as charged. So much for due process. Of course, Walter has never been a fan of those that disagree with his narrow proto-fascist view of the world.


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Meadow Park
on Jun 22, 2011 at 4:04 pm

Walter: I have stopped being shocked at how brilliant Churchill was with his comment about the truth. In this case, I have actually known this about Hansen for at least 2 years... I can connect the dots about his speaking engagements and knew what he was up to. Luckily, I guess the pants are finally on and catching up to the lies he told.

"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put its pants on." ~Winston Churchill


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Meadow Park
on Jun 22, 2011 at 4:10 pm

svatoid: you have to realize that when you, or anyone else, talks about "ties to global warming denialism" it is akin to waving a flag that the poster has "ties to the global warming religion".

One can deny a God that is neither provable nor not...either one believes or one doesn't.

But when it comes to anthropogenic climate change, this is not up for "belief" or not..it is up for scientific debate and conclusions.

Those of us who have read the science and conclude we, humans, do not affect climate, are not deniers, we are scientists.

But, this is an old and worn out thread. Rather than repeat the same old phrases, anyone interested in all the supportive evidence can look up global warming at PA Online and read the former threads.


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Posted by J Stewart
a resident of Menlo Park
on Jun 22, 2011 at 5:13 pm

"Exxon gives more money to warmists than to denyists because they have to keep cred on both sides. This is true of most energy companies..."

They need cred?!?!?

How about facts, instead of cred, "cred" produced by lies?

That's like Fox news this weekend admitting they cover the conservative side, not truth. Not fair and balanced. Of course, they cut that part out of the interview, but Chris Wallace is up on the web admitting it.

"Jon Stewart was on Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace this past weekend, where he talked about his views on the network and its conservative bias. What aired was a 12 minute segment, but an uncut 22 minute interview is available online. On last night's Daily Show, Stewart talked about the interview and what he thinks is the most important part of it, which was unsurprisingly left on the cutting room floor. In the segment he's talking about, Wallace essentially admits that Fox News has a conservative slant in order to "balance out" MSNBC's liberal slant." Web Link


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Meadow Park
on Jun 22, 2011 at 5:28 pm

Walter: yes, there is one "right wing" republican in CA...Tom McClintock. Very economically savvy, really understands what drives an economy and how to balance budgets..this makes him right wing.


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Posted by A hero for walter
a resident of Palo Verde
on Jun 22, 2011 at 6:03 pm

Perspective, if you knew about hansen 2 years so why did you not blow the whistle yourself? Walter would have been worshiping at your feet.


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Posted by svatoid
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Jun 23, 2011 at 8:02 am

"That's local libertarian, svatoid."

Walter--I am not a libertarian. I am a liberal democrat and I make no secret of it. I do not claim to be a libertarian while goose stepping to the beat of the republican drum,like some former veterans do.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Jun 23, 2011 at 6:19 pm

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

I agree less with democrats than with republicans, but I follow neither drummer. It's the message, not the messenger, but then it's so hard to attack the message. And I am a current veteran, not former.


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