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Would this work in Palo Alto

Original post made by WOuld this work? on Nov 17, 2010

San Francisco is thinking of implementing a plan to charge people that cross in and out of San MAteo county into San Francisco during peak hours a $3 each way toll. The question is is this something that Palo Alto should look into. Since traffic is such a major problem in our city, this may kill two birds with one stone--raise much needed revenue for putting into the libraries, funding the Children's Theatre, a historical museum, our zoo, paying for consultants etc. and hopefully decrease the amount of traffic in town so that we can truly have a walkable city.
What do you think?

Comments (11)

Posted by Would this work?, a resident of Stanford
on Nov 17, 2010 at 3:56 pm

BTW, here is a link to the story I mentioned above:

Web Link


Posted by Dumb idea for PA, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 17, 2010 at 4:53 pm

No this would not work in Palo Alto unless you want to drive all business out of the City. It would be very easy for Facebook, HP, and all the other tech companies to leave town if their employees were charged $3. per day to come to work then $3. to go home. No other nearby city is even contemplating milking their employee base that way.

The only reason San Francisco is contemplating a $6. commuter charge is because commuters driving in from the East Bay and Marin will soon be paying a $6 bridge toll. This proposed $6. charge for peninsula auto commuters will even the playing field. Incidentally, if SF goes through with this charge it may increase CalTrain's ridership, which will be a good thing.

If you want to pay an auto toll to get into a big city move to London!!!!






Posted by space, a resident of Community Center
on Nov 17, 2010 at 5:02 pm

There is no space left in San Francisco to build more freeways or parking lots so they have to encourage people to use other means to get in to the city. Palo Alto still seems to have plenty of space.


Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 17, 2010 at 5:11 pm

This proposed charge for vehicles is similar to that in London. It is expensive to initiate and maintain, but it works in London. Of course it won't work in Palo Alto, but San Francisco with its only non bridge entry along a narrow peninsula could be much easier to institute than London.

I am all for it. I never drive to San Francisco except to drive visitors across the Golden Gate type of reasons. If this money were used to improve Caltrain it could turn into a win/win.


Posted by Give it a try, a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Nov 17, 2010 at 6:18 pm

"Palo Alto still seems to have plenty of space."

Not according to what you hear at almost a daily basis here in the city. We are constantly told that our schools are overcrowded, that we cannot have any more housing, that there is too much traffic, Stanford expansions are bad and the complaints go on and on. Maybe driving all the business from the city would help alleviate these problems by making Palo Alto an unattractive place to work and live. Also it may prevent Palo Alto residents from shopping outside of the city, if they have to pay a toll to exit and enter. this is worth a try to help solve the pressing problems that are negatively affecting the qulaity of life here.


Posted by Outside Observer, a resident of another community
on Nov 17, 2010 at 7:37 pm

It's a brilliant idea. It will accomplish what everyone has said. Reduce traffic, force out business, all of it.

The bicyclists will finally have what they want. Ownership of the motor vehicle roads that they didn't pay for. Of course, bicyclists will be exempt for any entry fee, it's the "green" thing to do.

Palo Alto is special, Palo Altans know that and the idea of a fee just to come gaze upon their utopia is a small price to pay for such a privilege.


Posted by Walter_E_Wallis, a resident of Midtown
on Nov 18, 2010 at 6:13 am

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

Totally absurd! If they want to isolate certain sections, O.K., but the whole city?


Posted by Utter Nonsense ..., a resident of College Terrace
on Nov 18, 2010 at 11:16 am

We have embarked on so much nonsense that I must say this:

Every person entering SF should leave their pants at the city border and collect it when leaving!


Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Nov 18, 2010 at 12:17 pm

Palo Alto should pay me every time I enter their fair city (which I try to avoid) because I bring in revenue. I want my reward for putting up w/the Shallow Alto attitude! That said, Menlo should pay me $2 & Atherton, well, $10!


Posted by anonymous, a resident of Embarcadero Oaks/Leland
on Nov 18, 2010 at 1:41 pm

I predict that if San Francisco does implement this fee, then they will also install a new bureaucratic department to "manage" it, pretty much negating any possible benefit.


Posted by Joseph E. Davis, a resident of Woodside
on Nov 18, 2010 at 5:11 pm

If you wish to read my comment in Palo Alto, there will be a $3 data delivery fee.


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