Juana Briones Schools & Kids, posted by Amy, a resident of the Green Acres neighborhood, on Aug 10, 2010 at 3:49 pm
We just moved into our new house in Green Acres. I registered my third grader today. Our neighborhood school is Juana Briones. I was wondering if anyone can tell me if this school is full and overflowing? Thanks, Amy.
Posted by Me, a resident of the Barron Park neighborhood, on Aug 10, 2010 at 10:29 pm
Welcome to a fine school! My two kids did well there. It is hard to say whether a given grade will overflow - the school itself doesn't know for sure until school starts and they see who shows up. Email Maria the school secretary - she is very helpful and probably the most knowledgeable. I'm not sure when she'll be around, but her email is on the school web site Web Link
Posted by Amy, a resident of the Green Acres neighborhood, on Aug 17, 2010 at 12:31 pm
It seems our daughter won't be going to Briones after all. They are full. They won't tell me where she is going. This seems unfair and crazy to me. I have 4 kids and have lived all over the country. I have never had to deal with this kind of nonsense. Does anyone know what school they may send her to now? I was told I won't know until Friday.
Posted by palo alto mom, a resident of the Duveneck/St. Francis neighborhood, on Aug 17, 2010 at 4:51 pm
Barron Park seems to be the one school that is never full, in the past many kids end up there. There is also a chance that after the first few days of school there will be room (kids don't show up because they have moved or are going to a private school but did not tell PAUSD).
Posted by Overflow, a resident of the Adobe-Meadows neighborhood, on Aug 18, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Amy, unfortunately, I'm not surprised that your child got overflowed given how late you registered. Those who register during the "Priority One" period (January 5 - February 10) got first priority for their neighborhood schools, and all those who registered afterward got assigned on a first come, first served basis. Since you just registered, that would put your child way back in the queue.
If it's any comfort to you, our neighbors had a similar experience in a recent year and their daughter got overflowed to Barron Park Elementary. But in the spring, a space opened up at our neighborhood school, and she was able to move.
Yes, it's frustrating that we even have to deal with this issue in the first place. It all comes down to an unanticipated increase in the elementary school age population, exacerbated by new home-building in some neighborhoods. Good luck.
Posted by Crowded schools, a resident of the Green Acres neighborhood, on Aug 19, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Overflow: the increase in school enrollments is not "unanticipated."
The large number of housing developments being built in south Palo Alto now, and in north Palo Alto a couple of years ago, made it perfectly clear that there was going to be a huge increase in the school population. And it has not ended. Lots more construction is going up. Look at Stanford for example.Their kids go to Palo Alto schools.
Interesting that the person who started this thread is adding FOUR children to our schools at the last minute, and is indignant that there is a minor problem.
Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Aug 19, 2010 at 3:01 pm
Perhaps the real culprit is the realtor who advertised the home as going to certain schools. Perhaps realtors should really be saying that the home will guarantee place in a Palo Alto school and that the school district will tell them which one on registration.
The realtors are advertising certain schools as selling points and this should stop. The development on Bayshore at Loma Verde has signs outside saying Gunn High School when the development is actually in Paly boundries.
Posted by Vianica, a resident of the Palo Verde neighborhood, on Aug 20, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Overflow: My child was overflowed from Palo Verde to Barron Park along with 12 other kids. This was inspite of being on the priority one list. We have now been moved to Fairmeadow as about 7 kids on the initial overflow list have gotten back into PV. I have no clue on how this whole process works. How can 7 kids who said in March that they will attend a school suddenly decide not to. I can understand some moving during the summer, some getting into choice programs but people I have spoken to all say that all kids (last year there were 16 according to staff at PV)make it back before or in the first week of school. I wish I could understand better why there is so much discrepancy in initial enrollment numbers. The staff told me in Feb/March that there were double the number of kids in the priority one registration at PV yet only 13 had to be overflowed? Where did the others disappear even before school starts? Something does not add up.
Posted by Me, a resident of the Barron Park neighborhood, on Aug 20, 2010 at 9:49 pm
Amy, I agree it is unusual vs. other parts of the country to get overflowed, but it is generally caused by the "hard cap" on class sizes in K-3 - the district doesn't have the flexibility to "squeeze in" the additional few kids.
If you get sent to Barron Park school, that is still likely walking distance for your third grader.
Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Aug 21, 2010 at 9:26 am
PAUSD does a lot to try and ensure that all children registered for school in the fall do turn up, particularly at the elementary level. From forms sent to all students in the spring, to postcards and even phone calls to kindergarten families the week or so before school starts, to check if alternate plans have been made for each particular student. Unfortunately, there are many families without enough manners to let PAUSD know that they have moved or have a place in a private school.
There is very little PAUSD can do when a child is enrolled back in January and the family does nothing to inform them that they won't be coming in the fall.
Posted by Vianica, a member of the Palo Verde School community, on Aug 21, 2010 at 10:00 am
The PV staff has been extremely helpful and nice and prompt in their responses. I just wish there was some better process to figure this out to factor in the new housing, lottery programs and other variables. As far as those who do not report to the school that their situation has changed either intentionally or otherwise,someone suggested on this forum under another heading that people who register in priority one should be made to pay a refundable deposit at the time of registration that they will forfeit if they do not turn up. Atleast this would goad the fence sitters to decide one way or the other and save some agony to parents whose kids are starting school in Kindergarten or the first time at PAUSD.
Posted by palo alto mom, a resident of the Duveneck/St. Francis neighborhood, on Aug 21, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Vianica - since we are a public school district, I doubt we can charge a "deposit" for a place in the school. It would be nice if parents were courteous enough to notify the district that they have moved or are sending their kids to private schools.
Many parts of the country require developers to build an actual school and donate the land for it when that add significant amounts of housing to an area - unfortunately, in Californa, cities can not factor school overcrowding in to approving a housing development and the fees we charge a developer are pretty minimal considering it costs $140K to educate a student from K-12.
Posted by Fairmeadow Kinder, a resident of the Adobe-Meadows neighborhood, on Aug 23, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Vianica, it's interesting that your child has been moved to Fairmeadow. Will your child be entering kindergarten? I know that Fairmeadow recently added a fourth kindergarten class for the coming school year. I was wondering if this was to accommodate additional students from the Fairmeadow district and thus avoid having to overflow them to other schools, or if this was to make Fairmeadow a destination for overflow students from other schools, like Palo Verde. Or perhaps both explanations are true.
Has there been any word from the district on this stuff? In any case, I suppose things will become clearer tomorrow on the first day of school.
Posted by Vianica, a member of the Palo Verde School community, on Aug 23, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Fairmeadow Kinder: Yes my child will be starting in kinder at Fairmeadow.I have no idea about fourth kinder class room FM. I heard back from one of the school board members in spring this year, that they are putting up a new two-storey class room building at FM to factor in all the new additional housing in this area. So I suppose the long term goal is to make FM the overflow school, since there is no room for expansion at PV (acc to the staff there). I also know that Barron Park eliminated a kinder class just before school let out for the summer. As you said, things will become clearer when school starts tomorrow.
Posted by Amy, a resident of the Green Acres neighborhood, on Aug 24, 2010 at 1:35 pm
Our daughter did get into Briones after all. It seems to be a great place. I actually went there too, when it was called Loma Vista.
To the mean spirited poster, who posted as "crowded schools", I am not adding 4 children. Only one. It is none of you concern but sometimes moves can not be perfectly timed. We had to wait for our house to sell in Colorado before moving here. Thanks for the warm welcome to the neighborhood.
I grew up here in the Green Acres neighborhood. It is nice to be home. I Went to Terman too and graduated from Gunn.
Posted by Vianica, a member of the Palo Verde School community, on Aug 25, 2010 at 1:17 pm
My child made it to PV today. I got a call from the school the evening before the first day and Resident is right. People do not have the decency to tell the school about the change in their circumstances. The spot that opened up for my child was because someone waited until 11th hour to tell the school that they were sending their child to private school. I hope that things work out similarly for everyone who registered in priority one and were overflowed.