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on Sep 17, 2008
15 robberies in 3 months is a lot to me, too. I am glad that the police are taking these crimes seriously.
They are increasing the patrols JUST NOW? This should have been done a long time ago. They need to increase them even more. I dont care if our city "doesn't have the money" because I know it can come from somewhere else. I would rather see a large number of police out than new gymnasium buildings are our schools or a more environmentally-friendly Palo Alto. The city needs to get their priorities straight before things get worse.
I'm all for the increased police patrols to make the streets safer.
However, for those of who actually think 15 robberies per 3 months is a lot, i guess you really are all wrapped up in this whole palo alto bubble thing a little too tightly.
People that live in places like Atlanta, Camden, Compton, and East L.A. would laugh at this. The term 'robbery' is probably insignificant to them. relax, palo alto is perfectly safe, you have no reason to concern yourselves.
johhny - Sorry, but you can't compare Palo Alto to big cities like Atlanta and LA. Very poor example. Why would you criticize a town that wants to have safe streets and a low crime rate?
It's not the robberies but the muggings that are the problem. And they have happened in broad daylight.
Palo Alto is a small, safe, and expensive town to live in. I doubt that any similar town has had this many muggings in the middle of the day to innocent people of all ages walking down suburban streets.
n/a, a resident - you are correct - we are a "small" town - but, I guess we do not care about what is going on in our very very expensive town! It just may be there are many owners that don't occupy! So who cares! The uptick in crime, especially on people, is a big deal. Personally, I don't care if you break into my house, or car, when I'm not around - I don't want to be there with my kids! - take it - just stuff - but the issue of an 82 yr old person being attacked at 10am is HUGH to me - where are you people - obviously THIS is not an issue - the libraries are!
I just read that above post and cannot understand it. It's jumbled words with no meaning! Typos, grammatical errors...another troll.
Extra patrol? How about any patrol? when do the polce ever patrol our neighborhoods? What happended to the times when the police drove slowly through the neighborhoods, talking with citizens or even waicving to kids in the park? PAPD use to do this but I haven't seen it since Johnson came along as chief. Under Zerker and Derkin this happened everyday in my neighborhood. Now, nothing. Instead when you call the police, dispatch tells you it's not a crime and the police won't come out. Too busy.....BS.
I suggest that the citizens sign up for a ride-a-long with the police. Then you can ride with an office for a few hours and you can see for your selves how busy our overworked police really are. I think everyone would be surprised at how much free or dead time officers have.
For the PA police to increase patrols will mean a lot more overtime for our over extended police force. Next year when the salaries of Police Officers are revealed you will all complain about the amount of money spent on overtime. You can't have it both ways extra patrols means overtime and it will cost the City a lot.
Is all this your perceived reality, or is it reality? Whichever, may I offer another perception. Over the past few years I have frequently seen patrol cars and motorcycle officers driving through and doing work throughout the Crescent Park, Edgewood neighborhoods. And how are you qualifying their down time? I also disagree with your ride-program perception, because I have participated through the citizen's program. In just one portion of the day, I observed officers respond to a child abuse case, a suicide attempt, accidents with injuries, domestic violence, and a violent mentally ill person. Therefore, my perception would be that most people in do not know the challenges and volume of work that the police have to deal with. It is a complex, difficult job, and I for one would like to extend them some much deserved respect.
Oh by the way Dan, the former police chiefs that you speak so highly of, their names are spelled with the letter "U". It was Zurker and Durkin. Might want to get that right.
Long time resident,
Well, it's nice you notice the police responding to incidents. That's reactionary and not "patrol". Patrol is a pro-active action.
Have you seen the police walking in any of our parks, besides reserves working for free? Have you seen then stop any of the people gambling in Elenor Park? Open your eyes and look at what's going on. At least 4-5 times a week, while walking in elenor park I see juveniles drinking, groups gambling and cars racing away. In the morning you see empty alcohol containers tossed at teh curb. It's not an issue of drinking in the park, it's a matter of people breaking the law and the police never being around.
John, as for overtime, that's a joke. The police departmetn has detectives and crime teams that can be assigned to the area, but that would mean they would have to change their hours and would have to work on Fridays or a weekend. Palo Alto has 6 assigned beats and few officers can be assigned to cover slower beats while extra officers satuate the "hot" areas. this is basic police work.
The police can also take the motorcycle cops, who are taffic officers and reassign them to patrol for a short time. It's all about priorities.
It sounds like many of you have drank the Johnson cool-aid and believe what she is telling you.
Great thoughts. Let me add a few things. I feel a big issue is that the police are not allowed to pro-active. this is why so many seasoned officers have fled PA in the last 5-7 years to san mateo County and other departments. just check to see how long the most senior partol officer has been with the department. For PA's history the senior offiers have had 25 -30 years experience. Now the senior officers, badge #1,#2 and #3 have been with the department for less then 13 years
Since Johnson, the police are affraid to "profile" people and make contacts. Johnson has also added a departemnt policy that does not exist anywhere else. Johnson does not allow her officers to search suspects with consent, which is a crucial police tool.
When a questionable person is stopped and is acting suspiciously, the poilce can't ask to search for illegal items.
I love Dan's suggestion about the citizes going for a 4 hours ride a long to see what the police really do. I did and it was an eye opening experience.
Not a lot going on around here.
If the police aren't allowed to operate in the same manner as police in other jurisdications (e.g. search w/content, etc.), then something should be doneto replace the police chief. The criminal element catches on to this and know they can operate in PA without add'l risk of getting caught. Let's face reality. I'd like Palo Alto to have a reputation that discourages the criminal element from operating here. Don't burden me with cries of civil liberty violations. If you don't live here, work here, go to school here, or have legit business here, stay the heck away!
get alife dave,you dont own this land
Well, the PAPD must be doing something on patrols. According to the Palo Alto Daily POST, last Monday the PAPD cited five people for leaf blower violations!! First things first.
PAPD does not use a SWORN patrol officer for the leaf blower violations...can we please drop that OLD issue already??
I seriously think that an increase in patrol doesn't help. The Palo Alto Police Department is useless. The city is not safe because of increased patrol.
15 robberies in 3 months is not a lot.
Fuck the police.
Adam, you mean the same police that you might need some day? Doing a job that a lightweight twit like yourself would neither have the qualifications, courage, or class to do yourself. Light up another bowl and go back to your X-Box.
you may need cops,however ,when ive intervened in klan attacks ,the cops were called but they didnt care because the person being attacked wasnt ''white''.also have seen white women pulverized in public and the cops barely raise their voice to the white guy attacker.dont want to let public know that white guys are violent.hide it crom the public so you can put it all on other races or countries
The police department has gone to you know where in a handbasket since Johnson became chief. She needs to be replaced.
Well, a problem is that people dont communicate or look out for their neighbors. whatever happened to neighborhood watch programs, and reporting suspicious activity you see, and looking out for each other. Palo Alto is a bubble city of entitled people, its the weirdest place Ive ever lived.
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