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PAPD at Dan Brown's Sports Bar

Original post made by qq on Mar 9, 2008

PAPD was sent to break up a fight (more than 20 participants at one point) at Dan Brown's Sports Bar ( 4141 El Camino Real, Web Link ) around 12:45AM. When the officers got on scene, pitchers of beer were launched at them (what a waste!) The whole force is down their now breaking it up with medics standing by. Should be an interesting story come morning!

Web Link

Stanford, Los Altos, and Mountain View PD are on scene as backup.

One person has been detained so far.


Comments (35)

Posted by Resident of Barron Square, a resident of Barron Park
on Mar 9, 2008 at 1:48 am

Sat. 1:10 a.m.: Once again, I am awakened to screaming and yelling and profanity from Dan Brown's Sports Bar. Are there ever any "drunk driving" arrests of the young people who are. no-doubt drunk and driving? Is anyone else's sleep disturbed or are they bothered by these disturbances?

Posted by qq, a resident of Barron Park
on Mar 10, 2008 at 3:18 pm

I'm sure the tax revenue from the alcohol sales more than makes up for any petty sleep disturbance you and your neighbors may have to deal with. ;-)


Posted by watching from the sidelines, a resident of Gunn High School
on Mar 12, 2008 at 4:15 am

I really don't think this is an habitual happening at Dan Brown's ~especially as to make it a public announcement over the no sleep issue is a little redundant.
WoW, good ol barfight. Wish I could have been there with a camera! Just like the Wild Wild West, but in the South part of town!! Since you are up so late, maybe you could film some of it and send it into some tv program to win a prize! Silly suggestion? Well, ear plugs are always available, maybe just for the weekends....good luck...

Posted by morgan, a resident of Barron Park
on May 21, 2008 at 4:49 pm

dan browns bar has no dance or music lic and can be shut down

Posted by Anonomis, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Jun 2, 2008 at 5:13 pm

Actually Dan Browns does have a Lic for music. And you dont need a Lic for dancing.

Posted by morgan, a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 16, 2008 at 12:02 pm

residents of barron park and el camino way be sure to sign the noise and parking petition more to come

Posted by Marina, a resident of Gunn High School
on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:40 am

Guys, actually Dan Brown's is a nice place... I don't go there often, but when I do it seems pretty good...

Posted by Tim, a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 23, 2008 at 7:37 pm

Oh no! The residents of Barron Park are getting a petition together to close down Dan Browns. Like it worked for CPI.

I love Dan Browns and I hope more people drink, dance and party there [portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff.]

Posted by CC, a resident of Terman Middle School
on Mar 12, 2009 at 2:21 pm

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Posted by carl, a resident of Barron Park
on Jan 19, 2010 at 12:18 pm

good news dan browns is closed for good next month

Posted by Pa Guy's, a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 3, 2010 at 10:26 am

Why is Dan Brown's closing? we all go there for a beer and fun. Pool and TV. It would be ashame to have Brown's close. Again, why?

Posted by Pa Guy, a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 4, 2010 at 4:52 pm

Still waiting for your response Carl. I have search all public notices and went and had a beer Weds night. No mention by any person of this place closing. I ask that you be specific in your statement.

Posted by Jon, a resident of Midtown
on Feb 8, 2010 at 9:10 am

I just found this blog. Why would Brown's be closing? In all the blogs nor in the Times I have not been able to find the reason. The Police logs in the Times haven't posted anything to believe the police are called to Brown's at a increased rate. If the lack of sleep issue is the concern has anybody met with the owner of Dan Brown's to talk about the issue? Small businesses are.vital to our economy. As businesses increase so does tax revenue for our city. I side with PA Guy and ask for facts not heresay. It saddens me that one would start such a attack, take 2 years to say this business is a problem. Are we trying to chase small bisinesses from Palo Alto? If laws are followed and business suceeds that fuels the economy.I think the purpose you state is not valid for any type of negative ation towards any small business in Palo Alto. I own a business here and struggle daily to make it but wouldn't change my business scope for anything. If you have a better idea, run for political office.

Posted by Pa Guy, a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 12, 2010 at 9:28 am

Well Carl, another week has gone by and still no further information about Dan Brown's. Since I live around the corner from DB's I haven't been appoached by any city officals.about violations you must have access to another source.. Again I have NOT found any supporting infomation on why DB's would be closing. No public records. This is nice bar that does a good job. Have you been there or just a resident of the area? Enjoy DB's and the other people fron Barron Park area.

Posted by just thinkin', a resident of Midtown
on Feb 12, 2010 at 4:01 pm

I'll bet "carl" got 86'ed for some sort of rude behavior and hopes someone else is run out of the neighborhood before he is...........

Posted by Patron of Dan Brown's, a resident of South of Midtown
on Feb 18, 2010 at 10:24 am

This is a wrongfull attack against this bar. I have been coming here for 4 years and enjoy it. The place is a great neighborhood bar. I have been in the bar when PAPD does their check. Never have I seen anything out of control.Dan the owner with Matt, Kevin, James and Big Dan do a great job in making all of us feel like we are friends. Take your negative feelings and poor mindset and put it to good use. Leave Dan Briown's alone. Nothing wrong with the place and always getting better.

Posted by PA Guy, a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 21, 2010 at 6:42 pm

Hey Carl, any idea of what date Dan Brown.s is to close. It was open Thurs and Friday with business booming. Please tell where the information that you have can be obtained. Show up here so this can be dicussed and followed closer.

Posted by PA Guy, a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 25, 2010 at 9:15 am

Hi Carl I have asked for additional information on the closing of Dan Brown's. You have not have responded in any such manner. I feel that your statements are FALSE. Brown's is a good business and your attack is malice and without forethought. Facts have not been found in respect to your statement. Please us your time to make Palo Alto a better place to live and for our families and friends instead of the pumped up fictional testimonies that you have mentioned. Thanks.for bringing this matter to the attention of all of us who read this forum. Dan Brown's is a business in Palo Alto that complies with laws and policies. Take the attack somewhere else. Since I live nearby come on over and let's go to Brown's together and get your matter straighten out.

Posted by Guest, a resident of Mountain View
on Mar 3, 2010 at 10:42 am

Was in this place after I drove by Sunday. Not bad. I read this stuff but didn't see anything other than a cold beer.

Posted by Wife/neighbor, a resident of Barron Park
on Oct 21, 2010 at 10:08 am

Whoa the day has come. Go and get coffee and find out the news. Have lived near Dan Brown's for 5 years and just heard that this place is being investigated by the state. My husband and I have dealt with the mess this place is. Hearing the garbage going out at 3am, parking problems and the people hanging out as they leave. Hope this is the last straw.

Posted by Wife/neighbor, a resident of Barron Park
on Oct 31, 2010 at 6:55 pm

California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control on their website states that Dan Brown's has a Employment Development Department hold. That means the payroll isn't correct at this place. I have had enough of this place. It is time for the City or State to do something about Dan Brown's.

Posted by anonymous, a resident of another community
on Nov 1, 2010 at 12:39 pm


A small business with screwed up paperwork. I'm shocked, just shocked I tell you.....

You've had enough, let's talk about it - over a tasty adult beverage at DB's?

Posted by IT'S A BAR, a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Nov 1, 2010 at 3:49 pm

To Wife/neighbor..........

Did you know 5 years ago that there had been a bar in the building for about 10-15+ years???????????????????????????????

Your like the people near Eastridge Mall who can't believe the airport got put next to a shopping venue...........

Sounds to me like a bit of buyer's remorse - the realtor didn't say, and you didn't ask/check.

Have you bothered to call the police AND SIGN complaints/witness statments????? If you are REALLY serious, where is the neighborhood, class action complaint????????????

You goofed, your fault.

Posted by Wife/neighbor, a resident of Barron Park
on Nov 2, 2010 at 5:25 pm

Well I see the anger here from the information that is posted in the Alcoholic Beverage Control's website is correct. I am sure a request of public records could be filed with Employnent Development Department and find out why there is a hold on the license. Yes we bought here after your business was running. Yes we didn't check with the realtor. Crimes that the police need to investigate I wouldn't know. I have came in the bar a few times since moving here. The last time it smelled like POT.I was told the owner Dan Brown was the bartender. I called the Department of Health and filed a complaint, That can be looked up. Infact I will call the state investigator and tell him to check that complaint. Is there anything else we need to discuss. I am more than glad to watch the activity from where I live and report it here and to the Palo Alto Police.

Posted by Another neighbor, a resident of Gunn High School
on Nov 3, 2010 at 3:43 am

This is out of hand. Brown's is a good place. If you say you have been to Brown's why call the Health Department? I have been coming to Brown's for years and have enjoyed a good time. I think your emotions are getting the best of you. Give it a rest.

Posted by IT'S A BAR, a resident of Charleston Meadows
on Nov 5, 2010 at 4:03 pm

To Wife/neighbor -

Is the problem Husband/neighbor, or the reality that many places in Calfiornia on occasion smell of pot (WHICH MAY BE FROM OFF PREMISES. People smoke in and around the apartments next door.) BTW - it ain't my business, so my personal animus is the source of "the anger" , it's more on the narrow minded attitudes of people how demand others live within "THE" rules that the other may believe are %@#$@, yet do no harm.

Posted by In the area, a resident of Barron Park
on Nov 15, 2010 at 3:36 pm

We know there is problems at Dan Brown's. Major ones I wouldn't think so. I am a neighbor and haven't been in for awhile. Last time there was a new bartender young man with a beard who couldn't make a cocktail for my date. I just don't think it is a bad place. There is a group knocking on doors to find out the bad things about Dan Brown's. If the business is or can straighten it out let them. Just because I had a bad deal,let the people stay employed and people have fun.

Posted by wife/neighbor, a resident of Barron Park
on Nov 26, 2010 at 1:33 pm

Well the DAY HAS ARRIVED. Dan Brown lost his eviction case and will be closing this weekend. Peace to all of us.

Posted by Lawrence, a resident of Barron Park
on Nov 29, 2010 at 10:37 pm

Wow, just caught up on this as heard Dan Brown's was closing. I was an infrequent customer, but what a sad day to see Barron Park/Palo Alto become even more repressed and continue to lose its sense of character/history. At some point you deserve the neighborhood that you create, and one that appears to be becoming as whiny and as small-minded as I am hearing, will have very little of interest to offer very soon. People need to have respect for the neighborhoods they move into, take responsibility for where they buy into, for eventually there really will only be a 'Starbuck's' on every dreary corner if this continues. Too bad....

Posted by steve, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 30, 2010 at 10:19 am

Ive been going there for years and its usually mellow, I dont usually stay past 9:30. I think its a great place to meet friends and talk. Just because a couple dumas's cant take it outside, the rest of us should not have to suffer

Posted by bob, a resident of Barron Park
on Nov 30, 2010 at 10:52 am

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Posted by been to Brown's, a resident of South of Midtown
on Dec 7, 2010 at 2:27 pm

Well your right wife/neighbor. Dan has been evicted from the property and has married a beautiful lady. They also have a son. Dan will need to get a job to provide for his family. Is he a monster? Well maybe since there are so many questions about his business practice and ethics. The landlord cleaning up the place has nothing positive to say and has been patient with Dan. I have to think the monster will have to find a new cave to run his business from if there is a landlord that will touch him. Too said for all the good things that happened at Dan Brown's are now marred by his inability to run a business. I am sure the ABC and EDD will find out and get the money owed to them from Dan.

Posted by paul, a resident of Barron Park
on Dec 12, 2010 at 6:14 pm

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Posted by Dan's wife, a resident of Juana Briones School
on Dec 28, 2010 at 11:17 pm

Thanks to those who have shown their support here regardless of the rude, cowardly, and sometimes completely irrelevant remarks/accusations/assumptions.
For those who haven't been so supportive- how 'bout you take over the building and show Dan how it should be run if you think you have any right to discredit him as a businessman. I'll even wish you luck and actually mean it.
Last but not least: if you have something to say about my marriage, say it in person instead of hiding behind a screen. I understand certain people may be offended by my marriage, but there is absolutely no reason to make such an off-the-wall comment like that which I just happened to stumble upon. You are the biggest coward of all, and THAT is a sad story.

Posted by Jonathan, a resident of Midtown
on Jan 9, 2011 at 12:44 pm

I'm a 48-year-resident of Palo Alto who raised a family here but won't retire here by choice as I have seen the town become cold, unfriendly, and every-person-for-himself -- assisted by rich newcomers and rich commercial property owners who have no interest in or care about local traditions.

The nimbys who have posted in this thread typify this.

As an article on Dan Brown's closing in the San Jose Mercury News (link -- Web Link) noted, there had been a bar at the Dan Brown's location for at least 20 years, and a restaurant that included a bar for much longer. Apart from that, El Camino Real is a major thoroughfare and will continue to be so despite various misguided Palo Alto planning decisions that attempt to turn back the waves like King Canute.

Those who moved in to new developments near the bar benefited from their (relatively) lower property values, and apparently then decided to wage war, attempting to remake the community in their own small-minded image. Never mind the good of the many (yes, public institutions like bars are important to a community just as are churches, libraries, bowling alleys, and other meeting places) compared to a few selfish people.

Over the years I visited Dan Brown's a few times though was far from a regular. Parking was easy along the El Camino frontage, and it was the only bar for miles. Plus, the building has distinctive architecture with a beautiful curved bar and echos of art deco. It would be nice to know the history of the building, and it would be wonderful to see it preserved, but Palo Alto has a history of ignoring significant commercial architecture, and its city councils and planners have always been obeisant to the major developers who own so much of the town.

(I know nothing about the owner of the Dan Brown's property. Let's hope the landlord is enlightened and would like to preserve the building in something like its current use, instead of cramming a boxy office building with underground parking garage and obligatory cellular store onto the parcel.)

Meanwhile I am stunned by those here who attack a small businessperson as a "monster." This is outrageous and uncalled for -- but if your goal is to get everything possible out of the hands of an individual and into those of the corrupt corporations you shill for, you'll no doubt get your way.

Veiled attacks on Dan's marriage are uncalled for too, and mysterious to those of us not in the know. What's he supposed to have done -- married a younger person? If so, why not, and how is it any of your business? I wish them plenty of luck and happiness in the future, and hope their continuing success is an affront to the haters.

Let us know where you wind up, Dan. We'll come buy a drink or too, and might move there, too, to get away from these so-called neighbors.

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