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Putin is too much for Clinton and Obama

Original post made by Gary, Downtown North, on Feb 15, 2008

"At a minimum, a head of state should have a head," Putin said.

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When Putin visits Bush, he is like a puppy dog in GW's lap. However he feels very bully when he contemplates having to face the possible Democrat candidates. He will shrink to putty, if he needs to face McCain.

Hillary and Barak are kids playing in a sandbox full of quicksand, and they don't have a clue. They will need to grow up fast, if they win. Unfortunately, they will be challenged, like JFK, taking us to the brink, as they get potty trained.


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Posted by Anonymous
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 15, 2008 at 9:44 pm

Not like your hero, Bush.

From Bush's June 2001 joint press conference with Putin.

PRESIDENT BUSH: I will answer the question. I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country.

Looks as if Bush is Putin's Lapdog, not the other way around.


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Posted by Mike
a resident of College Terrace
on Feb 15, 2008 at 11:13 pm

oh, oh, Gary the troll is back! I'll bite - - how is it that Putin has gained so much power under Shrub's watch?


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 16, 2008 at 3:50 am

I see no error in Bush's statement, nor servility either. Does anyone deny that Putin believes his actions benefit Russia? Bush has many faults - this statement shows none of them. It does, however, show much about the citer.


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Posted by Dr. Ferragamo
a resident of Stanford
on Feb 16, 2008 at 7:42 am


Wallis,

It seems you've overlooked how the local professional culture, particularly the engineering crowd, find it deeply troubling when American leaders claim to have the power to gaze into the souls of anyone.


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Posted by perspective
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 16, 2008 at 8:08 am

I think Putin's real hope was that this comment would shove the "left" more into Obama's camp. How happy Putin, who is pushing his country back into dictatorship policies, would be if Obama is in office!

We could go back to the happy and peaceful Carter days!


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 16, 2008 at 10:06 am

I suspect that a branch of the local professional culture, especially the engineering crowd, includes as many carriers of Bushatred as any other group. If they draw inferences from that Bush statement beyond examining someone's deeper motivations that is about as absurd as Lib Arters drawing conclusions about engineering. I seem to recall a book "The Soul of a New Machine" a few years back that was well accepted by the local professional culture, yet that did not suggest divine intervention.


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Posted by Dr. Ferragamo
a resident of Stanford
on Feb 16, 2008 at 10:41 am

Wallis,

"The Soul of a New Machine" describes the events surrounding the development of new technology.

"I was able to get a sense of his soul" decribes how much our corrupt cabal, who engineered the candidacy of goofball GWB and the destruction of USA, relish flaunting their disregard for American citizens.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 16, 2008 at 12:21 pm

So the definition of soul depends on the animus of the definer? You've gotta be Kidder-ing.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Feb 16, 2008 at 1:42 pm

"how is it that Putin has gained so much power under Shrub's watch?"

That's an easy one, Mike. He did it the old fashioned way. He took a stand for Mother Russia, and attacked her enemies (remember that school attack, and all thsoe kids killed and that Moscow theatre attack?). Putin knew how to put it down. Russians like strong leaders, but they also want prosperity, so Putin will probably not become a true dictator, like Stalin. He is an authoritarian, and that is what most Rusiians want at this point.

Russia is a soulful place, and Putin recognizes this, and Bush could see that he did. Good for Bush for seeing reality. The two Dem rookies will probably grandstand about Chetchnian rights, oil drilling in the Arctic, etc. Putin will drill them a reality well, and they will learn some hard lessons. McCain, on the other hand is probably better at the political judo than his blackbelt counterpart.

"troll"? Mike, really now...who are you, as the biggest troll on this blog to throw stones?


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Posted by FactChecker
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Feb 16, 2008 at 2:44 pm

PRESIDENT BUSH: I will answer the question. I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. We had a very good dialogue. I was able to get a sense of his soul; a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country. And I appreciated so very much the frank dialogue.

There was no kind of diplomatic chit-chat, trying to throw each other off balance. There was a straightforward dialogue. And that's the beginning of a very constructive relationship. I wouldn't have invited him to my ranch if I didn't trust him. (Laughter.)

Secondly, I appreciate the opportunity to be able to talk about a new relationship, and we will continue these dialogues. The basis for my discussion began with this simple premise: that Russia and the United States must establish a new relationship beyond that of the old Cold War mentality. The Cold War said loud and clear that we're opponents and that we bring the peace through ability for each of us to destroy each other.

Friends don't destroy each other. People who cooperate do not have a basis of peace on destruction. Our nations are confronted with new threats in the 21st century. Terror in the hands of what we call rogue nations is a threat. I expressed my concern, and so did the President, very openly, about nations on his border and nations that can't stand America's freedoms developing the capacity to hold each of us hostage. And he agreed.

I brought up concerns about Iran. And I'm hesitant to put words in the President's mouth, but he said he's concerned, as well -- I think that accurately categorizes your position -- and we'll work together to stop the spread of weapons of mass destruction. And I believe as we go down the road that we'll be able to develop a constructive relationship as to how to use our technologies and research and willingness to keep the peace, in a way that makes the world more peaceful.

I was so pleased that we were able to begin constructive, real dialogue between our Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld and Mr. Andrei Ivanov. These will be fruitful discussions, and I believe what people will see is a strategy, a joint strategy. The President's a history major, and so am I. And we remember the old history. It's time to write new history, in a positive and constructive way.


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Posted by just thinking
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 20, 2008 at 4:14 pm

Hillary recently said that Putin couldn't have a soul, being former KGB. (I'll skip the lawyer jokes.) His reply at a press conference questioned whether she had a brain.
True, he is out as president, but the smart money watching Russian politics see him as a shoe in for Prime Minister. Been obvious for months. Nice to see Hillary is paying attention, and building bridges.
By the way, the "35 years of experience" she says she brings to the table - 35 years of what??? Not a mom, Chelsea is under 30. Not wife, married Bill in '75. Intermitent law practice - lacks stability, no asset. What is the "hook" if 35???


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Posted by You Know The Rules
a resident of Stanford
on Feb 22, 2008 at 1:17 pm

"just thinking",

Please post a link to the report that stated Hillary insisted Putin has no soul.


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Posted by You Know The Rules
a resident of Stanford
on Feb 22, 2008 at 1:25 pm


Here's the YouTube video of Clinton's off-the-cuff remark:

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Posted by You Know The Rules
a resident of Stanford
on Feb 22, 2008 at 1:25 pm

Here's the YouTube video of Clinton's off-the-cuff remark:

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Posted by Periwinkle
a resident of Downtown North
on Feb 22, 2008 at 1:36 pm

Putin is a pragmatic guy, but he's ruthless, and scary
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That said, Hillary called it; Putin is souless. If you've ever spoken with anyone who has worked with the KGB, o rlived among the KGB, you'd understand.


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