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PA bus-service cuts may only be for six months

Original post made on Dec 12, 2007

Palo Altans may only have to endure six months of reduced bus service if a recently crafted transportation proposal wins the support of city leaders and the Santa Clara Valley Transportation Authority (VTA).

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, December 11, 2007, 5:59 PM

Comments (9)

Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 12, 2007 at 9:20 am

There seems to be some progress here, but what is worrying is what will happen in January. I have seen a huge line of Paly students getting on the Embarcadero shuttle outside school and can only imagine how squashed the riders are. We know that Gunn students can use both the shuttle and rte 88, but what will happen when rte 88 doesn't reach Louis Road?

Just because our students only use buses during the school year and at certain times of the day, it makes sense that they make a difference when it comes to how much buses are used and unfortunately this group often have the smallest or weakest voice. Please take them into account because what they need is very important to all of us here in Palo Alto.


Posted by Mike, a resident of College Terrace
on Dec 12, 2007 at 11:17 am

Good progress. Good thinking.

We need to stay on this kind of track (pun intended), and continue to move forward toward a far more intense and efficient mass transport system.

We're at about 10% of where we need to be. This is one small step in a mass transport system that MUST be FAR better than what we have today, if we are to manage growth, preserve our environment, and create dynamic suburban and small city environments.


Posted by resident, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Dec 13, 2007 at 8:00 am

Mike, forget it. Forget it all. I have watched relentless VTA cutbacks. We are going to spoil our environment and our health. We are going down the way we want to - that's all.

And that's fine with me. Upscale Palo Alto people fought tooth and nail to preserve bus service for their children, all the while ignoring the plight of the veterans who soon will not be able to get from the PAVAH to California Avenue, the one place that is easily accessible to them thanks to the 88.

Palo Alto and Menlo Park people also paid no attention to the Menlo Park veterans when they did not object strongly enough to the VTA 22 service to MP being eliminated.

I guess this is what happens when you have a war fought by people you don't even acknowledge as human. It's fine for you: those kids of yours that will have their 88 bus will never have to fight because there will never be a draft and never be protests and you will never even really register that there are wars going on somewhere or other or that there are veterans that could have a better deal or a less good deal.


Posted by Public transporatation is a joke in PA, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Dec 13, 2007 at 8:51 am

From the above article:


"Palo Altans may only have to endure six months of reduced bus service"

The number of Palto Altoans "enduring" the reduced bus service is extremely small in number.
Despite the comments of Yoriko and Penny,most people drive cars here and they will continue to do so until there is a public transportation system that can be taken seriously.
Yoriko and Penny and walk and bike all they want--they obviously have the time for that. Unfortunately most other people in town need to work for a living, pick up and transport their children and drive to neighboring cities to find a decent grocery store and library, as well as low cost stores for general shopping.
Most of us do not have the time to use public transporation that will take over an hour when you can accomplish it by car in 20 minutes,

If Yoriko, Penny and the others are serious about public transportation then let them make some real changes instead of talking and trying to make themsleves look like they really care about public transportation. You know what they say--those that cannot do bloviate.


Posted by resident, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Dec 13, 2007 at 11:47 am

Here we go again, with Public transportation is a joke in PA, with another holier-than-thou Palo Altan claiming that he or she would use public transportation if it were what it should in his or her mind be - good enough so that this person's time is not wasted.

Dream on. You've got the ideal world now - where you are not asked to pay with money for damaging your health and the environment. That, and not Penny and Yoriko, is why you will never have public transportation and will lose even what you have now.


Posted by Public transporatation is a joke in PA, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Dec 13, 2007 at 12:44 pm

resident---I buy carbon offsets so my conscience is clear.


Posted by Anamika, a resident of Midtown
on Dec 13, 2007 at 1:42 pm

Editor - "A map of the suggested routes can be found at www.cityofpaloalto.org. Click on the "Know Zone," then "City Projects," then "Transportation," then "Palo Alto Community Bus Study."

May we understand the logic behind such elaborate 'directions' - why not just say "click here" and provide the directed link?

Incase you don't have it - here is the directed link: Web Link


Posted by Parent, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Dec 13, 2007 at 2:52 pm

For Joke

I hope you are always fit enough to drive or at least wealthy enough to be able to pay for taxis, or friendly enough to have friends willing to drive you. I hope your eyesight and your faculties are good well into old age so that you can drive. I hope that if you have kids, you are willing to drive them everywhere they want to go, even if it is in opposite directions for school or other activities.

For the rest of us, let's hope that there will be the foresight of public transport when we need it.


Posted by resident, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Dec 14, 2007 at 7:52 am

Thank you, Parent, for good comments to Joke, who has a far too individual approach.

You remind us that we definitely need public transportation for older people. We are a rapidly aging society, and old people, I believe, will cost us far less if they are able to remain independent, active, and engaged - and public transportation goes a long, long way to helping with that.

Purchase of carbon offsets may do something for the environment but it does not contribute to keeping anyone healthier - public transportation systems probably do that - just because more physical activity is involved. The buyer of carbon offsets is not helping to keep public transportation going so that senior citizens can be less of a burden. The (supposed) contribution to the environment is not matched by one that addresses costs to society that result from a less physically active population.


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