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Iran--Bush and Cheney Wrong "Go To" Guys

Original post made by A Boomer, Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Nov 10, 2007

Iran is a mess. The mullahs in charge of the place are religious fanatics, the current President is a megalomaniac, their oil rich economy has been mis-managed to a shamble, the people cannot stand the regime. The world has little or no sympathy for those in charge in Iran, thanks to its rhetoric on Israel, its irritating rabble rousing of Shiite factions in the Iraq debacle, and their attempts to develop nuclear capabilities.

Thankfully, going nuclear is neither an easy or a quickly achieved accomplishment, and these guys, even if they knew what they were doing, are still a long ways away from coming even close to being able to make a nuclear device--peaceful or otherwise--let alone actually having a reactor or a weapon.

That said, the Shrub Administration, ne Cheney, appear hell bent to attack the country before they leave office. Even if such an action were indicated due to a clear and present danger (and that is not the case), these are not the people who should be doing anything at all in the next 14 months to further undermine the United States' position in the world, to put this country at long term risk through further weakening our military resources and depleting our government treasure.

They have demonstrated time and time again that they are not "go to guys" for this country, and it was a serious mistake that they were voted into office (and even that remains questionable.) The federal deficit, the declining dollar, the shaky housing market, the poor response via FEMA and vetos of bills when infrastructure in New Orleans and elsewhere have failed or is at serious risk of doing so, our relations and stature with other countries, our sorry moral leadership after torture of people detained and ousting career attorneys from the Justice Department for political reasons... need I go on?

These are not "go to guys" for anything with a track record like that. And they think that they need to exit the stage only after bombing Iran before they go?

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Posted by Gary
a resident of Downtown North
on Nov 10, 2007 at 7:28 pm

I don't know if bombing Iran now, or in the future, would be a good thing or not. However, if it needs to be done, it should be done by adults. That is why I would support Bush/Cheney to do it, instead of Clinton/Obama.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 11, 2007 at 2:29 am

If only Carter had accepted the declaration of war by Iran and responded appropriately, Iran would have learned that when you mess with the bull you get the horns. By responding to an act of war with mewling the future was set.


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Posted by Neighbor
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 11, 2007 at 10:05 am

A small note in the Daily Telegraph the other day said that the British are sending an aircraft carrier and 3 support ships to be located in the Persian Gulf near the Iranian coast; they will be in place by next May. That is supposedly the last window of opportunity the Bush administration has for bombing Iran. Needless to say the Brits aren't happy about this.


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Posted by BJ
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 11, 2007 at 12:14 pm

The irony of this whole thing about nuclear weapons is it's not Iran but Pakistan that now presents a greater danger to the world. More and more of that country is being taken over by Jihadists; if they get control of Pakistan they will get controls of their arsenal of nuclear weapons.


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Posted by Round-up
a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 11, 2007 at 12:43 pm

"the people cannot stand the regime"

Why don't we choose our words with care. Don't you understand what your words mean. The people CAN STAND the regime...they continue to let it exist...meaning the "stand" it. We may not like it, but we stand it.

I am sure when a million protesters appear in Washington D.C. Congresspeople look out the window and say...well, we aren't doing anything the people can't stand...if they couldn't stand it there would be violence out there.

If it weren't for Kent State we might have been in Vietnam for many more years. We live in a culture that generally only understands violence...good, bad and ugly...it is the backbone of America.

Those of us that want to do implement major change in a non-violent manner ... we won't be listended to.


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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Nov 12, 2007 at 3:36 am

The method of selecting our leadership does not guarantee that everyone will be happy all the time. To continually whine about office holders is a rejection of the system and an invitation to strong man rule. Present ideas.


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Posted by George Cheney
a resident of another community
on Nov 12, 2007 at 1:27 pm

Oh, Gary, you are such a comedian!!!
I bet Bush and Cheney get a chuckle when they read your comments on this forum.
(I can see it now:
Cheney: Hey, Georgie, this guy in PA thinks you are an adult
Georgie: What's an adult Uncle Dick?
Cheney: An adult is someone who is responsible for his actions and does not depend on his dad and his friends to bail him out
Georgie: Will I ever be an adult Uncle Dick?
Cheney: I doubt it)


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Posted by sue
a resident of College Terrace
on Nov 12, 2007 at 3:49 pm




In fact thing are going well in Iraq militarily.

Also we have secured agreements to have exclusive access to 80% of the 30 trillion dollars worth of oil in the ground through 2020.

Our negotiation with Iran will be more successful if we carry a big stick and we have the full support of UK, France and Germany for our positions.

The danger in Pakistan is exaggerated all the heads of the military are pro American and we have secured their nuclear capability.


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Posted by sue
a resident of College Terrace
on Nov 12, 2007 at 4:30 pm



The United States has secret contingency plans to safeguard Pakistani nuclear weapons if they risk falling into the wrong hands, the Washington Post reported Sunday.


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