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Eshoo pledges 'no' vote on Syria Strike

Original post made on Sep 12, 2013

U.S. Rep. Anna Eshoo, D-Palo Alto, came out Wednesday against U.S. military action in Syria, saying she would prefer a diplomatic solution to address the country's chemical weapons stockpile, she announced Wednesday.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, September 12, 2013, 2:28 PM

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Posted by smart alec
a resident of Barron Park
on Sep 12, 2013 at 3:10 pm

Wouldn't a better headline be "Eshoo eschews a strike on Syria"? You guys missed a golden opportunity.


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Posted by Paul
a resident of Palo Alto Hills
on Sep 12, 2013 at 7:50 pm

President Obama had already withdrawn his request for Congressional approval BEFORE Rep. Eshoo took her independent stance - oh, yeah, along with Rep. Lofgren.


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Posted by The Decider
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 12, 2013 at 9:21 pm

We obviously learned from The Decider how much a horrifically bad decision costs us.

5,000 dead and trillions attacking a country that didn't attack us.

Worst American foreign policy decision since Vietnam.

No war.

Obama has handled this masterfully thus far. Used American military might as a threat, and then used diplomacy to save American money and lives.


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Posted by lucy
a resident of Stanford
on Sep 13, 2013 at 1:18 am

"Obama has handled this masterfully thus far. Used American military might as a threat, and then used diplomacy to save American money and lives."

Uh...the core principle of the United Nations Charter bars the threat or use of force which is an illegal act. I believed it was Putin who used diplomacy.


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Posted by jake
a resident of Community Center
on Sep 13, 2013 at 2:30 am

These days people can believe in anything... but the truth is that the engine is burning oil and the smoke are all over the Networks and the Mediterranean Sea. Too masterful!


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Posted by Enough!
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Sep 13, 2013 at 11:41 am

"The Decider" listens to Dave Ross. :)

I feel sick every time I see the people dying of the gas...but, we really shouldn't start another war.


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Posted by Gar
a resident of Downtown North
on Sep 13, 2013 at 12:02 pm

"I feel sick every time I see the people dying of the gas"

Ever seen people riddled with bullets? Torn apart by explosives? Starved to death? Tragic, all.

Sending troops or bombing a bunker (which then kills a russian "adviser", which then leads to...) doesn't solve anything. Look at Iraq today - complete and utter DISASTER. Car bombing, suicide bombings, sectarian violence, a failed nation. How is Bush not a war criminal for causing that, for an unprovoked invasion of a country and causing all that misery?

From the BBC, today: "At least 30 people have been killed and 25 wounded in a bomb attack on a Sunni mosque on the outskirts of the central Iraqi city of Baquba, officials say."

That's what life is like in Iraq everyday. We just choose to ignore what we have done.

Is that Shi'a bomb any better than chemical weapons? Sure, make the case, but you're cutting an awfully fine line.


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Posted by Noel
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 13, 2013 at 1:04 pm

While we're at it, neither Israel nor Egypt are parties to the chemical weapons ban. As they are, by a huge margin, the largest recipients of US aid, it's time we tell them both to sign up and get inspected or lose US aid. There are only seven countries in the world that are not parties to this ban: North Korea, Israel, Syria, Myanmar, South Sudan, Egypt and Angola. How embarrassing.


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 13, 2013 at 3:18 pm

I remember, back in the day, the saying "never again", regarding Hitler and his gassing of his own citizens. Those days are clearly over. FDR felt a moral responsibility to attack Hitler, even though Hitler did not attack the USA...Japan did that. Eshoo, has her finger in the wind of public opinion, unlike FDR. History will judge her accordingly.


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Posted by Gar
a resident of Downtown North
on Sep 13, 2013 at 3:51 pm

Sam has so many factual errors.

"FDR felt a moral responsibility to attack Hitler, even though Hitler did not attack the USA...Japan did that"

FDR did not attack Germany, moral responsibility or no. Germany DECLARED WAR on the US following Pearl. At 3:30pm 11 Dec 1941 the German charge d'affaires in Washington handed American Secretary of State Cordell Hull the declaration of war. Sam's entire premise is flawed by factual error.

"Eshoo, has her finger in the wind of public opinion, unlike FDR" Again, given your factual errors about FDR, you therefore have a fallacious statement. Moreover, there is strong opinion about more war in the mid-east, as we are still recovering form the disastrous Bush decisions. What's wrong with our elected officials honoring the majority of American's wishes and avoiding senseless war?

"History will judge her accordingly." Indeed. And it will judge her actions as correct, as we learned from Iraq.


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Posted by Not an issue
a resident of Community Center
on Sep 13, 2013 at 4:01 pm

Sam-- you must be about 90 years old if you remember what FDR did " back in the day"


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 13, 2013 at 4:11 pm

> Germany DECLARED WAR on the US following Pearl.

FDR set him up for that, by allowing a leaked war plan (Rainbow) to be published in the Chicago newspaper of record. Hitler always wanted to make a deal with the USA, not go to war with us. FDR and Churchill were tickled pink that Japan caused Hitler to declare war. FDR, in fact, shipped war resources from the Pacific to the Atlantic, because he had a moral disgust for Hitler. Both FDR and Churchill were real war foxes, and they were driven by both existential and moral values.

John Kerry described Saddam Hussein as a moral equivalent of Hitler, and he was. GWB went after him, and defeated him, and killed him. Obama pulled away, instead of leaving a sufficient residual force to enforce the many gains that GWB made (like Korea). It is a shame on Obama.

Probably time for you get up on your history, Gar. History will not be kind to you.


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Posted by Not an issue
a resident of Community Center
on Sep 13, 2013 at 4:17 pm

Nice spin by Sam.
Naturally Sam cannot resist bashing Obama-- which was his aim all along. While rewriting history, Sam forgets that bush sr. Passed on the chance to get rid of Hussein. And, oh, BTW, Sam, bush did not " kill" Hussein. But do not let the facts get in your way.


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Posted by rewrting history
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 13, 2013 at 4:19 pm

"Hitler always wanted to make a deal with the USA, not go to war with us" What a crock.

Enjoy rewriting history quite a bit, don't you?

"The bombing of Pearl Harbor surprised even Germany. Although Hitler had made an oral agreement with his Axis partner Japan that Germany would join a war against the United States, he was uncertain as to how the war would be engaged. Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor answered that question. On December 8, Japanese Ambassador Oshima went to German Foreign Minister von Ribbentrop to nail the Germans down on a formal declaration of war against America. Von Ribbentrop stalled for time; he knew that Germany was under no obligation to do this under the terms of the Tripartite Pact, which promised help if Japan was attacked, but not if Japan was the aggressor. Von Ribbentrop feared that the addition of another antagonist, the United States, would overwhelm the German war effort.

But Hitler thought otherwise. He was convinced that the United States would soon beat him to the punch and declare war on Germany." So Hitler overrode Ribbentrop and declared war.

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Americans know what a disaster Iraq was. Keep trying to peddle your fiction about how Bush made the correct decision - he most certainly did not, and everyone knows it. That's why the GOP conventions since Bush have tried to hide him. Even the GOP knows Bush was an unmitigated disaster.

They're the ones sending him painting supplies just to keep him occupied.

Next you'll be back on your "Reagan needs a national monument" riff.


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Posted by Nora Charles
a resident of Stanford
on Sep 13, 2013 at 4:24 pm

Thank you, Rep. Eshoo for pledging to vote "no." The U.S. should be focusing on problems at home, not on other countries' wars civil wars.


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 13, 2013 at 4:30 pm

>But Hitler thought otherwise. He was convinced that the United States would soon beat him to the punch and declare war on Germany." So Hitler overrode Ribbentrop and declared war.

Correct, because FDR had probably leaked the Rainbow war plan to make sure that Hitler got the point. Hitler took the bait. The main point is that FDR wanted to go to war against Hitler, out of moral disgust. Eshoo will never be in his moral class.


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Posted by Not an issue
a resident of Community Center
on Sep 13, 2013 at 4:48 pm

Sam-- you had better quit while ahead-- when confronted with your " errors". You provide new fantasy explanations. What is even more amusing is you having to praise a democrat (FDR) in order to bash current democrats. Spin on, Sam.


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Posted by barron parker
a resident of Barron Park
on Sep 13, 2013 at 9:15 pm

We got this far (negotiations to get rid of Assad's poison gas and other "chemical" weapons) by making a credible threat of using force. Without that threat, Putin would never have agreed to broker talks on removing those weapons from Syria. We're still in negotiations, which will go nowhere if the threat loses credibility.

Eschewing even the possibility of use of force (regardless of the outcome of these negotiations), Eshoo significantly diminishes our bargaining position with Syria and Russia.

Thank you, Eshoo, for undermining Obama.


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Posted by Noel
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 14, 2013 at 10:42 am

Comparing any of this to Hitler and WWII is absolutely absurd. There are zero countries in the Midde East that could hope to defeat any of the major powers though Israel with its nukes and missiles could do, by far, the most harm. Hitler is constantly rolled out to create paranoia and fear to get the US to attack yet another country that is not a threat to us.


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