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Blood transfusions drop at Stanford Hospital

Original post made on Jun 11, 2013

Stanford University Medical Center and other hospitals are substantially reducing the number of transfusions they give to patients in the face of new technology, health risks caused by the procedure and its costs, according to an article published by Stanford School of Medicine researchers in the May 25 issue of "Lancet."


Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 5:10 PM

Comments (17)

Posted by Danny Haszard, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 11, 2013 at 9:00 pm

Jehovah's Witnesses *blood transfusion confusion*.

Jehovah's Witnesses fare better with bloodless surgeries that are elective non emergency.Tens of thousands have died in the emergency room from traumatic blood loss.
To those newly introduced to the Watchtower twisted blood transfusion ban, these cases are classic cherry picked success story while ignoring the 50,000 to 100,000 or more Jehovah's Witnesses who have died for refusing life saving blood in emergency trauma.
Jehovah's Witnesses blood transfusion ban against "whole* blood is a deadly church dogma that confuses the ER staff and patient victims causing many deaths.
When someone has lost a lot of blood giving IV fluids will not replace blood loss.
--
Danny Haszard


Posted by John, a resident of another community
on Jun 12, 2013 at 8:38 am

Danny,

No one is guaranteed to come out of any surgery with their life. The medical experts are telling us based in their study that people who don't have blood transfusions recover better and had fewer complications than those who do. In my personal experience of 25 years in a local JW congregation not 1 person who has had any type of surery has died because not accepting blood.


Posted by Milton Martinez, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Jun 12, 2013 at 8:46 am

This is in reference to Danny Hazards comment. Is it wrong for a people of the Jewish persuasion and the Muslim community to eat pork even if they were starving? Or for a Catholic father having to choose the life of the baby over the life of the mother if it is a matter of life or death for the baby or the mother? I am sure that maintaining integrity to your religious persuasion is better than to live after violating your religious persuasion. Jehovah's Witnesses obey the Bible injunction to "Abstain from blood" even if the result is death for abstaining.


Posted by Danny Haszard, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:08 am

Jehovah's Witnesses *blood transfusion confusion*.

Jehovah's Witnesses doctrine allows a liver transplant but not the blood that is in it.

Jehovahs Witnesses DO take blood products now in 2013.

They take all fractions of blood.This includes hemoglobin, albumin, clotting factors, cryosupernatant and cryo-poor too, and many, many, others.
If one adds up all the blood fractions the JWs takes, it equals a whole unit of blood. Any, many of these fractions are made from thousands upon thousands of units of donated blood.

Jehovah's Witnesses can take Bovine *cows blood* as long as it is euphemistically called synthetic Hemopure.
Jehovah's Witnesses now accept every fraction of blood except the membrane of the red blood cell. JWs now accept blood transfusions.
The fact that the JW blood issue is so unclear is downright dangerous in the emergency room.


Posted by John, a resident of another community
on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:56 am

Danny,

The confusion is from people like yourself that speak without knowing. There is no confussion. It is a matter of every individuals choice as to what treatments or products their conscients will allow each to take. (just like everyone else) The objections of JW to take whole blood have helped doctors come up with inovative alternatives that benefit all.


Posted by Pamela Wright, a resident of another community
on Jun 12, 2013 at 12:00 pm

The absurdity of the Watchtower rulings now allow any of the COMPONENTS of blood to be transfused, but not whole blood, and yet Jehovahs Witnesses people are dying and lives and families are being ruined over a few old men in Brooklyn who are always changing their minds on this matter.


Posted by Captain Jack, a resident of another community
on Jun 12, 2013 at 2:31 pm

Danny,

The ingredients in of a cake include many things. But the fact that you include individual components of a cake does not mean you get a cake. Your one-sided disposition is obvious. You are an attacker, hater, and misinformer. It's funny that your whole life surrounds attacking a group who chose to live a different life. Read the article again, it's not published by the WTBTS. NO ONE can prove taking blood saves lives...it's in the article Danny.


Posted by Hazard to Guess, a resident of another community
on Jun 12, 2013 at 2:38 pm

Danny,

Research shows its best not to receive blood. Hospitals around the country are reducing blood transfusions. Study after study is documenting wisdom of alternatives to blood. Doesn't is just make your blood boil that a group of nice people are right? I hazard to guess how little sleep you get knowing they were right all along.

Maybe pick another topic to sling mud at Danny. You've lost this argument is a big way. Isn't science cool Danny?


Posted by Mr Science, a resident of another community
on Jun 12, 2013 at 2:48 pm

Danny,

Science here. Thought you might want a clue. Apples fall from trees because of gravity. That's real science. Oh, and people who receive blood transfusions have higher incidences of disease, complications, heart attacks, strokes, not to mention a higher morbidity rates following transfusions. Did I forget to include that patients that receive transfusions have to spend more money because procedures and hospital and follow-up treatments cost more?

Yours truly,

Mr (That's a fact) Science


Posted by When Wright is wrong, a resident of another community
on Jun 12, 2013 at 3:00 pm

Pam,

First let me ask: Are you sure these 'old men' are in Brooklyn? Keep your eye on they ball...you're not keeping up.

Second, if I give you a gun and tell you it only has one bullet it it would you put it to your head a d pull the trigger? Of course not! It's dangerous. Taking blood is a 'Russian Roulet' game doctors have played for too long. Now they are ending the game based on scientific research, but you can't let go. You still have to deride a group who is being vindicated by science. Everyone thought the earth was flat except for a few. That few was likely derided a d made fun of even after proof of a round earth. Are you a member of the Flat Earth Society?


Posted by Hey Pam, a resident of another community
on Jun 12, 2013 at 3:10 pm

Pam,

1) You claim that JW's are dying because they refuse blood. Prove it. Where is your scientific research? Where is your study? Is this your opinion, or can you back up your claim?

2) Guess what...People who take blood transfusions die because of the blood they receive. I offer in support of this claim the above article which cites research.

3). As there are people who die from receiving blood transfusions, where is your outrage over a 'small group' of medical professionals who promote this death dealing procedure? (Note: there are fewer doctors than the at large population which by its very nature make these medical professionals a small group.)


Posted by Blutigkeit, a resident of Southgate
on Jun 12, 2013 at 4:27 pm

I had a joint replacement surgery in which the staff did not "remember" to return my two pints of autologous blood to me until my blood pressure bottomed out and I lost consciousness. Granted, it was my own blood, thus a lowered risk, but the fact remained that I was losing more blood than I could replace after a long surgery. It is still possible to bleed to death, and in those cases, emergency blood should be available.

However, even Stanford's blood supply is not 100% safe, and in my own case, my own blood donation was near the verge of being unusable due to the length of time they waited to return it to me. In that case, it would have been necessary to give me the blood of another donor.

Insurance companies rarely, if ever, pay for autologous or other blood transfusions, so it does become extremely expensive, and the patient is also charged for the cost of storing the donated blood for up to a month.


Posted by Daniel7, a resident of another community
on Jun 12, 2013 at 6:42 pm

I would like the thank everyone for all those intelligent and informed responses to the rants of DH

A Witness in Reno, NV


Posted by Ben Lowell, a resident of another community
on Jun 12, 2013 at 8:04 pm

HELLO Jehovah's Witnesses TAKE BLOOD lots of it!


How do you "abstain from blood" when your use tens of thousands of units for your Watchtower approved "fractions"?


Jehovah's Witnesses are so mixed up......


Posted by Ben Lowell, a resident of another community
on Jun 12, 2013 at 8:31 pm

My favorite comment on Jehovah's Witnesses using blood fractions:

(..."The ingredients in of a cake include many things. But the fact that you include individual components of a cake does not mean you get a cake. Your one-sided disposition is obvious.)


Posted by Ricky, a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Jun 13, 2013 at 2:12 am

Jehovah's Witnesses take blood now....... the Watchtower society allows blood products.......The only wrinkle to be ironed out now is the Watchtower society needs to give the go ahead for Jehovah's Witnesses to be able to donate at collection centers and give back some of the blood that they use.
Some individual JW are purist and abstain but their Watchtower Society (the Vatican to JW) now allow 95% of the content of Red Cross donated blood.


Posted by XDM, a resident of East Palo Alto
on Jun 13, 2013 at 8:49 am

There is a blood shortage. Let people use or not use what ever they want to use on their own bodies. That's the beauty of life, we each decide and control what we believe and what we do with our bodies. All you haters just mind your own life.


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