Menlo Park cop caught with prostitute keeps job Crimes & Incidents, posted by Editor, Palo Alto Online, on Jan 15, 2013 at 9:25 am
Hearing a knock at the Motel 6 door, a prostitute wearing a black catsuit answered, $20 bills stashed in her cleavage. In the bathroom, Sunnyvale police officers found a veteran Menlo Park police detective wearing nothing.
Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, January 15, 2013, 9:02 AM
Posted by neighbor, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jan 15, 2013 at 9:29 am
This is why we need local journalism. We need to know how our taxpayer dollars are spent, and sometimes it is downright shocking. Shame on this guy and shame on the corrupt "system" in place here. I guess laws are only for "some" of us.
Posted by Deep Throat, a resident of another community, on Jan 15, 2013 at 10:51 am
Palo Alto no longer uses binding arbitration. On November 8, 2011, Palo Alto voters approved Measure D to repeal Article V of the Palo Alto Charter in its entirety, eliminating the requirement that public safety employee disputes be resolved by binding interest arbitration.
Posted by Joe, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jan 15, 2013 at 11:08 am
> People make mistakes; he only hurt himself.
Not very much, it would seem from this article.
> He has already donated his life by having a career in
> law enforcement
Pooleeezzzeee .. Poorly educated Police Officers are now paid more than company presidents, and they also have for-life pensions that will make them multi-millionaires in retirement. What job can you point to that compensates people as well as this?
The crime statistics pretty much point out that police don’t stop crime from happening. They might, on occasion, figure out who committed a crime, and make a sound enough case to secure a conviction. But that's about it.
What’s really troubling is how the police have managed to secure enough “rights” that they can commit crimes without expecting to be treated like other people. There is just no transparency in the police function in most places. They have created a wall around themselves that gives them the right to not have to admit that officers have committed crimes, or even deny it—unless the proof is incontrovertible.
The example of the officer in Palo Alto who was arrested for a DUI (perhaps even involving an accident). It was almost impossible to get the Palo Alto Police to even admit that the event occurred. In that case, the arrest was in another jurisdiction, so there were no local police involved—until the matter was considered by Internal Affairs. Even then, they were not forthcoming about what the decision process was for evaluating improper/illegal activities of policemen who were off-duty (in this case).
The Daily News has recently reported a similar problem with a DUI involving a Los Altos police office, who was seemingly on-duty. It would not be hard to believe that within a ten mile radius, we have three different police departments with three different sets of standards—none of which are available to the public for review, and general vetting.
This lack of transparency would seem to be getting worse, not better.
Posted by pecuniac, a resident of another community, on Jan 15, 2013 at 11:25 am
The ghosts of our Calvinist Founding hypocrites still keep us in an outdated moral code and with a virtual State religion. The problem here is criminalizing victimless behavior. We need State licensed sex workers who are required to get both education about safe practices and, regular health checkups.
If a cop wants to get laid, its no one's business but his/her (and their family's) business.
Posted by the big question, a resident of another community, on Jan 15, 2013 at 12:07 pm
Was the officer on the taxpayer-paid clock at $52 and hour while with the prostitute? That to me is much more troubling and unethical than simply patronizing a willing member of the world's oldest profession. I'm surprised the article made no mention of that issue. Seems like he would get fired or disciplined no differently than if he were caught in a movie theater while on duty.
Posted by janet , a resident of Menlo Park, on Jan 15, 2013 at 12:09 pm
This is not a moral or a religious issue. It is a question of LAW. Prostitution is illegal in California. Cops are supposed to uphold the law. They are also supposed to be working during hours for which they are paid from taxpayer dollars. They are frequently witnesses in court when other people break the law. Breaking the law themselves impacts their credibility. There have been similar problems in San Mateo County but he employees are teflon coated. At present there are laws for the plebs and get home free cards for public "servants." Also, what does consorting with prostitutes by police officers say with respect to their state of mind in protecting women's rights? If this officer has to pay for it, he must not have what it takes.
Posted by moi, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jan 15, 2013 at 12:15 pm
Argue from whatever viewpoint you'd like, but I'd like to reiterate that this guy was on government time $$$$$$$$$$$ --
>>> "Detective Vasquez was in Sunnyvale to serve a subpoena related to a Menlo Park sexual assault case, he told the officers, "and this was not the first time he had solicited a prostitute for sex," according to the filing. Upon learning that the target of the subpoena wouldn't be home until later, the report states the detective said, "I had an hour to kill" so he called "My Redbook," a site listing local escorts and their phone numbers."
He had an hour to kill? This makes it legitimate? No. It does not. Shame.
Posted by pissed off, a resident of Menlo Park, on Jan 15, 2013 at 12:29 pm
that is such b.s its a cop so they do anything to whipe his hands clean strip him of his badge and let that corrupted department start over man not cool he deserves to go to jail just like if it was any other citizen getting in nookie
Posted by musical, a resident of the Palo Verde neighborhood, on Jan 15, 2013 at 12:56 pm
Odd. In every other journalism about a bust, the word "alleged" appears in every sentence. Unless convicted, isn't this man innocent in the eyes of the law? The fact that he wasn't convicted had nothing to do with his occupation.
Posted by Anon., a resident of the Crescent Park neighborhood, on Jan 15, 2013 at 1:06 pm
I have to say, I don't understand the reasoning here. The fact that he is being kept on says to me that he is not the only one and in fact there is some major corruption going on somewhere hidden that we cannot see. When the law is so complex that it can be derailed by something so trivial - the law is an ass.
By the way, look at that guy's picture, he just looks dishonest.
Posted by Prostitution = illegal, a resident of the South of Midtown neighborhood, on Jan 15, 2013 at 1:47 pm
What about the participation in an illegal activity do Menlo Park officials not understand?
In Los Altos, a police officer on a mobile device (cell phone?) rear ended a woman parked at a stop sign last summer, totaling her car and sending her to the hospital.
The LAPD, City Staff & City Council covered it up for months, until the Daily Post uncovered & reported details after the woman sued for damages. How's that for not taking responsibility, thinking law enforcement & the City is above the law?
Anyone paid to uphold our laws can't break the same laws, abusing his/her power, without consequence. This officer made his choice - he needs to be ousted.
What other laws has he broken? Does he give out tickets, like candy, for California stops, while winking at police & fireman buddies that do the same thing or worse?! We need men/women with integrity. Demand it, or they're out.
Posted by Rolling Eyes, a member of the Palo Alto High School community, on Jan 15, 2013 at 2:26 pm
It's always so interesting how people can criticize others yet no one is perfect. I am not religious but I do believe that no one is perfect and that's why these things happen. A shame that y'all can't just thank the man for protecting us for 20 years and realize a police officer is not Superman yet he is putting his life on the line for strangers.
Posted by Prostitution = Illegal, a resident of the South of Midtown neighborhood, on Jan 15, 2013 at 2:53 pm
Rolling eyes: I agree that no one is perfect. But are you saying ALL people in law enforcement have no integrity? Do you think we must accept men like this one, or go unprotected? Or do you think no one in our entire community has enough integrity to fill the job held by this officer? If so, that's cynical.
I think many others with integrity live in and around our community. Men and women that can protect us equally or better, since they would not wink at their police and firemen buddies, while at the same time being hard-nosed with average hard-working citizens, mercilessly given them tickets for say, a California stop. We pay consequences, so should they. Hold public servants accountable, and now.
Posted by Rolling Eyes, a member of the Palo Alto High School community, on Jan 15, 2013 at 3:56 pm
Prostitution = illegal: I am not sure that police offices have applicants standing in line, knocking on their doors. In addition, we are surrounded by people without integrity in white collar management and who's policing them? Can't catch and crucify everyone. If this guy were on meth during the job, I would expect him to be fired, but he did not harm society nor is he a threat to society. I say, let him get off.
Posted by Govt is Corrupt, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jan 15, 2013 at 10:34 pm
Hmmm - Yes, I agree with you. Alex M. should be disciplined. Neither Rojas or Alex M. are too bright - and they were selected by the Council. So I guess the Council isn't too bright either.
What this case shows is really the power of the police union - that they send in their best lawyers to represent their members. That is not the case for the other non-police unions. As a matter of fact, employees represented by SEIU are in the worst shape - and much of this is because of the long time damage made by the former HR manager Glen Kramer - the extreme double dipper after 40 years of service. So the police are not the only ones who abuse. City government is corrupt on many levels.
Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto, on Jan 15, 2013 at 11:33 pm
Now I feel for the guy - he's all over the evening news, including his photo. He says he's divorced; if he is single, he hurt himself & hopefully no one else w/this. I am glad he didn't lose his job - he has a lot of years in & has a decent rep on the job. I am glad also Catwoman didn't get into trouble. I'm hoping she's not a trafficked person w/a nasty pimp; maybe I am naive. Meow!
Since he wasn't convicted of a crime, he doesn't lose his job - but locals will remember this for a long time.
Govt is corrupt - what are the chances we'll hear anything about McIntyre getting into trouble? I figure, you know, unless his bosses or someone in the know blabs in public near a reporter, we might not ever know if he got into trouble. He may not have committed a crime, but his blabbing has had bigger ramifications than Vasquez's behavior.
Posted by Anon., a resident of the Crescent Park neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 2:24 am
The more I think about this the bigger rip-off of the public it is. We don't even bother to fire a cop who is with a prostitute while on-duty ... is there something in the water in Menlo Park that I'm lucky enough not to be drinking?
What has this guy been up to? Are these interactions with prostitutes regular, maybe they yield profit, maybe for others? I mean this guy was not just - not thinking, because 6 or 7 layers of warnings should have been going off in his head and he deliberately shut them them all down ... doesn't that imply something about the guy's character?
Posted by Govt is Corrupt, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 9:53 am
Hmmm - I agree with you again. Believe me, McIntyre is no saint. He is a very devious and elf-centered person with questionable morals based on his actions - the intent of which, is not always obvious to the Council (or maybe the Council doesn't care). Just how do these "public servants" get selected seems questionable too. Perhaps these "management types" should also get probation just like everyone else.
Posted by Joe, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 10:08 am
> The contract states: "The award of the arbitrator shall be
> final and binding." In other words, that person can overrule
> whatever disciplinary decision the city made.
This is really absurd, and makes a sham out of the whole discipline process—particularly if the various unions end up being able to pick (or buy) the arbiter. And no doubt, all of the proceedings are secret, so the public has no way to determine whether the arbiter is remotely biased, or not.
Posted by Disgusted, a resident of the College Terrace neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 1:28 pm
This affects law enforcement and public safety. The officer "patronizes" a hooker while on duty (paid by taxpayers). If Catwoman decides to ply her trade in Menlo Park, and the officer goes to arrest her, she could threaten to expose him as a client, so he would just let her set up shop.
Also, sometimes hookers or their pimps rob customers. If this officer had been robbed, would the police have gone after the robbers? But not the john/officer?
Posted by Ed, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jan 16, 2013 at 10:16 pm
We shouldn't pay police officers who break the law, and we certainly shouldn't pay them generously. Yes, they risk their lives, but so do soldiers in Afganistan, and soldiers don't make very much money, and their retirement benefits aren't nearly as generous. Taxpayers are being taken advantage of, and police should obey the laws they are supposed to enforce.
Posted by corrupt, a resident of another community, on Jan 17, 2013 at 12:47 am
The Menlo Park POA only endorsed one candidate for city council this past year... Kelly Fergusson, who chose not to be interviews by the DA's investigator during her own criminal investigation. This is not a low standard, this is corruption. Vasquez, Brackett and Bacon can no longer be trusted to protect and serve the community.
Posted by Corrupt-Is-As-Corrupt-Does, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jan 17, 2013 at 12:32 pm
> the prosecution asked to dismiss the case. The problem? Prosecutors
> were notified the day of Ramirez's trial that the officer who had
> interviewed her was unavailable to testify. According to
> Deputy District Attorney Rob Baker, who supervised the case,
> the officer was caring for his wife as she endured a
> life-threatening medical crisis
Interesting. The article does not quote any law enforcement officials (or the Das) that the officer in question was on some sort of leave, and as such, could not be expected to appear in Court. Nor does anyone associated with this case identify where the wife is located (hospital, nursing home, residence, in/out-of town). Is the officer drawing salary? And just how long would it take for him to testify at this trial? Would it have been impossible for the DA’s Office to pay for a nurse for a couple of days to relieve the officer so that he could testify? It’s hard to believe that the Officer was really as unavailable as the DA’s Office makes out—particularly since it meant convicting a Menlo Park Police Officer.
Keep in mind that this is the same DA’s office that recently was chastised by a trial judge for not properly Marandizing a murder suspect—whose attorney subsequently got him off the murder charge.
Another example of a corrupt government in action.
Posted by Prophet, a resident of the Adobe-Meadows neighborhood, on Jan 19, 2013 at 6:27 am
So how do we refer to this guy when we see him in the field?
Officer 2 Guns?
If he made detective we could call him Tricky Dick.
No, let call him what he is. Officer Imminent Transfer. I'm sure they are encouraging him to leave and reinstated him so he can at least work somewhere else(which I think is fair bty, considering the "crime")
I can't see him being able to do his job very well in MP anymore, so they'll let him learn from his mistakes in a new town.