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Council trio pushes for more ground-floor retail downtown

Original post made on Nov 2, 2012

With office developments on the rise in downtown Palo Alto, three City Council members are calling for the city to consider zoning changes that would protect the character of the shopping area by restricting ground floors to retail use at streets throughout downtown.

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Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 2, 2012 at 11:56 am

While they are at it, they should revise the restrictions on store size so that we can get some useful retail and supermarkets in Palo Alto. The area between Charleston and San Antonio (where Western Marine used to be) would be a great area to have some sizeable stores to complement the nearby Mountain View retail.

We need to have a decent grocery store that will provide a full service selection and also somewhere to buy household and family needs at affordable prices.

Most of my tax dollars go to Mountain View or elsewhere. It is time that Palo Alto realised this.

Posted by Jeff, a resident of Downtown North
on Nov 2, 2012 at 12:16 pm

Most shoppers don't spend the whole day shopping. Office space makes the parking problems worse.

Downtown would not be very appealing if it were dominated by "high-tech" companies, attornies, and banks. I hope we don't cross over a tipping point where no one shops downtown causing the remaining retail to leave.

Posted by Ducatigirl, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 3, 2012 at 7:57 pm

Ducatigirl is a registered user.

When we first moved here, the neighbors told us the secret to living in PA affordably was not to shop here...for anything.

They were right, but I caved and started buying groceries here, though absolutely nothing else.

The people who shop downtown are not Palo Altans. They come from other places to shop or window shop here. Many are tourists.

The point is, you can live here, or shop here, but one must have serious wealth to do both. That leaves out most Palo Altans, and it is a shame that most of us drop our sales tax dollars elsewhere.

However, it seems there are plenty of out-of-towners willing to drop their dollars downtown.

Posted by Commercial floozie, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 3, 2012 at 9:55 pm


"Downtown would not be very appealing if it were dominated by "high-tech" companies, attornies, and banks. I hope we don't cross over a tipping point where no one shops downtown causing the remaining retail to leave."

I also hope we don't cross over a tipping point. It would hurt downtown and the whole town.

To the extent mercenary commercial interests take over, Palo Alto will quickly reflect pretty much the "new look" of a commercial floozie.

Posted by Bob, a resident of Downtown North
on Nov 5, 2012 at 11:59 am

Not sure I understand what Ducatgirl is saying about not shopping downtown. Are you saying that if you own a home you can;t afford to shop downtown. That seems utterly ridiculous. The prices downtown for furniture, meals and even gift items are no more expensive than anywhere else.

Another hypothesis would be that of you can afford to purchase your $2 million dollar home in PA, you can afford to spend a little more money to shop downtown so that you can increase the sales tax base locally so that you can have better services from your city of which is paid for in large part through sales tax. Anyone who says that if you live her you should shop somewhere else is cutting of there nose despite their face.

Posted by Horselady, a resident of Community Center
on Nov 5, 2012 at 2:59 pm

After you buy your two million dollar house and pay your 10,000 dollar a month payment on it, you are forced to shop at Food For Less and Wal Mart!

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