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by Driver, Palo Verde,
on Oct 27, 2012
Too many speeders and not enough speed limit enforcement on both of those streets. Problem is compounded by too much distance between stop lights on both of those streets.
At least it was two cars, and not a speeding car aginst a motorcycle or a kid on a bike.
Middlefield is NOT Oregon Exwy.
Oregon is NOT the freeway.
I live 2 blocks off Middlefield and say a prayer every time I have to make a left turn.
Seriously, nobody actually drives the speed limit, and I'm not asking you to, but I routinely see people who are going twice the limit on Middlefield!
Next time you are 'running late' visualize paralyzing someone and ask yourself if it's really worth it?
No, I don't mean morally, I mean financially. How much liability insurance do you have? $10k? $100k?
24 hour care for an invalid can easily cost $100k/year. Imagine getting sued for $2 million and having your insurance company write a check for their maximum obligation.
Now you're in court, you're own insurance company paid off rather than defend you and they are coming after you for the rest.
How is going twice the posted speed limit NOT grossly negligent?
How much is your 401(k), your house, or your future earnings worth?
Even if you are a selfish sphincter, you should STILL slow the heck down before you hurt yourself...
Wasn't there a rollover crash at that intersection just a couple of months ago? With the coffee shop and cafe at that corner and homes lining both streets, there is always plenty of pedestrian traffic at this corner. Please obey the speed limits before you kill someone.
Obey the speed limits and obey the stop lights. There is no reason to ever have a collision at the intersection of two 25mph streets when a stop light controls traffic.
Some strange comments here.
Loma Verde and Middlefield are both 25 mph roads. I don't know about this crash, but this is a very busy intersection with cars turning in each direction and many pedestrians and bikes using it as well as motor traffic. This is particularly true at school commute times.
This intersection needs improving in my opinion. It is as busy as Meadow/Middlefield and also Charleston/Middlefield. Both of these intersections have dedicated turning lights. I am not sure if there is space for dedicated turning lanes, but we definitely need to do something to improve this intersection. I use this intersection daily and if I am turning at commute times I often can't make it on one green due to the number of pedestrians, bikes, turning vehicles, etc. Sometimes I can't make it straight across on one green light.
Yes, we do have traffic moving faster than 25, but that is not the only problem at this intersection.
As an aside, there is often PAFD parked illegally on the Loma Verde bike lane while the PAFD are buying coffee at Phil'z. This adds to the difficulty of bikes and vehicles at this intersection.
Yet you cut the Police Departments traffic team. Serves you right. I don't wish anyone to get hurt, but I don't care that you complain about a problem you created.
Other intersections on Middlefield Road have lots of traffic and no left turn lanes, e.g. around downtown. However, those intersections have fewer and less dramatic crashes because drivers mostly pay attention and obey the speed limits. The speeders don't really take over Middlefield until south of Embarcadero or even south of Colorado Ave (near Safeway).
Is Middlefield too wide through southern Palo Alto, encouraging more speeding? Or are there too many blocks between stop lights? There are plenty of schools, churches, homes, etc. along Middlefield, so there is plenty of reason for cars to slow down. Why don't they?
Everyone is in a hurry and they think that THRIR destination has priority over everyone else's.
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