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Why is Statford Still fighting to keep Garland?

Original post made by Charleston Area Residnet, Charleston Meadows, on Sep 21, 2012

I guess this is not surprise for many people here in Palo Alto, but as you know PAUSD needs another Elementary school asap due to the large amount of new kids, and so pausd already gave the eviction Notice to Stratford School 2 years or so ago, so it is a done deal that Stratford will move out of the building right? not so fast. Stratford school is hiring some public relation, and spending some money on it, even trying to change the school board with new blood. We all need Garland desperately. Why is this private school no letting go and find some other place?

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Posted by Ken
a resident of Midtown
on Sep 21, 2012 at 3:19 pm

This deal is similar to Pinewood in Los Altos, a property that PAUSD owns, and is part of PAUSD, but rented out to Pinewood.


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Posted by Cubberley Neighbor
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Sep 23, 2012 at 10:24 am

What makes you think Garland would be the right location for reopening an elementary school? The School District has recently purchased a school property on San Antonio Road which backs onto Greendell in the Cubberley complex.

Since it is South Palo Alto which has ever increasing enrollment numbers it makes sense to use the new property the School District just bought for an elementary school; that's assuming it is the intention of our School Board to reopen an elementary school in the near future.

However, I sit on the citizen's committee for the future of the Cubberley complex. Future enrollment figures are part of what we are studying and the School District says that with all the new construction at schools they will have space available through 1919.

The School District needs the rent from the Stratford School more than they need Garland re-opened. However, Stratford's lease may not be renewed.


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Posted by Lives near Stratford
a resident of Jordan Middle School
on Sep 23, 2012 at 4:55 pm

Most students walk or bike to Jordan. I read about the Garland reopening proposal and 3/4 of the students would live in South Palo Alto. How many children would walk or bike from South Palo Alto to Garland? Mostly, NONE because Oregon Expressway is dangerous. It would be a traffic nightmare, dangerous for Jordan students biking to school. We already have more traffic at Jordan this year and Louis Road often backs up with 8 cars at the stop sign. South Palo Alto students should stay in South Palo Alto so they can bike or walk.

PAUSD should Open Greendell for South Palo Alto residents or move Hoover to Greendell (since Hoover is a choice school and parents drive from everywhere and Greendell's parking lot is huge) and open Hoover as a neighborhood school.

It makes no sense to open Garland in North Palo Alto if it's going to be for South Palo Alto students.


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Posted by Addison
a resident of Professorville
on Sep 23, 2012 at 9:32 pm

that is not true. Last year and the year before Addison had EXTRA students, mostly kinders.
who had to go to Juana Briones where there tons of space available apparently. I know Juana Briones is not on the South Palo Alto per se, but is close by. The same thing happen to walter Hays and Duveneck. Why is Palo Alto we have the people who hate the people who live on the North of Oregon? I am sorry but we need Garland Elementary School 3 years ago already, and every year gets more crowded. This year there will be lots of kinders from the young 5s, and that transition program since the new State law birth date is coming to September now, and plus the regular kinders, Open GARLAND now!
BTW: who is the new School board candidate who does not want to open Garland? is that Ken Dauber or someone else?


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Posted by Lives near Stratford
a resident of Jordan Middle School
on Sep 24, 2012 at 12:02 am

@Addison: Sure, Addison, Duveneck, Walter Hays had students who were overflowed, but not enough to fill all of Garland. The majority of the students attending Garland were going to be from South Palo Alto.

Why is Garland the target when its location is not ideal? Why not put Young 5s at Garland, move Hoover to Greendell, and open Hoover as a neighborhood school for South Palo Alto residents? South Palo Alto is where all the new building is, and that monster on Alma is going to bring in more South Palo Alto students.


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Posted by palo alto mom
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 24, 2012 at 8:34 am

Garland would be a great location for a choice school since they are mostly commuter anyway. Both Immersion programs could move there freeing up space at Ohlone and Escondido.


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Posted by Lives Near Stratford
a resident of Jordan Middle School
on Sep 24, 2012 at 9:37 am

Jordan traffic was a zoo this morning. I had to drive my child to school due to carrying a large project. The cars who drop off kids at the Middlefield parking lot all have turn right so they drive on Middlefield an turn right N. California to go back to South Palo Alto. The drive-through in front of Jordan was all packed due to N. California being bumper to bumper. It was not this busy two years ago.

Whichever school takes over Stratford will definitely need a later start time than Jordan. Stratford traffic doesn't affect Jordan students.


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Posted by Walter Hays area
a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Sep 24, 2012 at 9:55 am

Just a reminder that the people in this forum here are the ones do not want to open Garland are actually Stratford Elementary School employees wanting to stay put. and doing everything for the district not to open GARLAND. Just ask the Garland to question to each School board member during the debates. But remember that a Large and rich school like Stratford will scream and mobilize a lot of resources to convince the Bord member behind closing doors to keep Stratford here. Don't make this a war of North against South. Open Garland now!


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Posted by Cubberley Neighbor
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Sep 24, 2012 at 12:11 pm

You are all missing the point, it's about money!!! Opening another elementary school cost many $$$ the School District does not have. Packing ever more children onto existing school sites is the most economical way of educating our kids. Yes, there is space available at Juana Briones and Baron Park, so that's where the kindergartners should go.

Several elementary schools are presently having additional classrooms built on i.e. Fairmeadow and others. Denying the School District the substantial rent they receive from the Stratford School will only hurt your children's education. Don't forget that if the City returns Cubberley to the School District, the PAUSD will loose $7.1 Million annually.


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Posted by Lives Near Stratford
a resident of Jordan Middle School
on Sep 24, 2012 at 2:31 pm

@Walter Hays: You have made a huge assumption about everyone here being Stratford employees! Very non-scientific, to say the least.

Where will the South Palo Alto children who attend Garland go to middle school? Back to JLS to make new friends? If they proceed onto Jordan, there will be even larger traffic problems in our area. We don't have the easy in & out access for so many cars.


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Posted by mobile
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 24, 2012 at 3:08 pm

Move Ohlone to Garland and create a neighborhood school at Ohlone. Sorts out the driving issues since Ohlone's a choice school Galand's private. Benefits South PA with a new school in a location that frees up overcrowding in Palo Verde.
Now just to sort out overcrowding in the north cluster...


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Posted by palo alto mom
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Sep 24, 2012 at 3:19 pm

Mobile -

Elementary alternative - Move Mandarin Immersion and Spanish Immersion to Garland. Frees up space a Ohlone and Escondido (and maybe give priority to Palo Verde kids for a year or two into Ohlone.) Ohlone's farm is an integral part of their curriculum and would be hard to move. (No I am not and never have been an Ohlone parent...)

Middle School alternative - move all the Jordan 6th graders to Garland, you could expand Jordan (and we need more middle school capacity) without over crowding.


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Posted by Cubberley Neighbor
a resident of Charleston Gardens
on Sep 24, 2012 at 5:08 pm

Palo Alto Mom says: "Move all Jordan 6th Graders to Garland." If that is an option why on earth are the tax payers of Palo Alto spending money building all those additional classrooms on the Jordan site?


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Posted by mobile
a resident of Crescent Park
on Sep 24, 2012 at 5:08 pm

I like the Middle School alternative but the elementary alternative comes across as too complicated to sell. It also doesn't solve the crowding issue at Palo Verde and giving priority to anyone for anything starts ringing alarm bells. Garland's pretty big, they can probably fit a modified zoo in there as well.


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