Posted by sad, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Sep 21, 2012 at 1:52 pm
Very sad to hear that the Korean BBQ is gone. Did they get evicted because the landlord wants more expensive merchants in that space? This restaurant was popular for years, even though their location in the back of the mall made them hard to find.
Posted by C, a member of the Palo Alto High School community, on Sep 23, 2012 at 3:20 pm
In answer to what happened to their lease, the Paly Voice has an article that is a bit more detailed: Web Link
And anon, I don't know if it's where the "old" deli used to be, but it was located next to what used to be a small shop with rocks and other odd trinkets... geological shop? I don't know exactly what it was... some gallery?
Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto, on Sep 24, 2012 at 8:53 am
Korean BBQ was so popular, ongoingly, for so long. I know it became a fave of PAMF staff once PAMF moved in & I used to see Paly students threaded throughout the line, too.
The rock shop - The Nature Gallery - moved. That was a stunningly gorgeous place. I ran into the owner last year w/her jewelry line at a trunk show.
Change is inevitable, but some of the T&C changes haven't made us smile like the demise of Edgewood Plaza's horrible buildings did. Frankly, as T&T became so yuppified & the parking terrible, we've curtailed our shopping there by about 50%. For so many years it was better to meet local friends there than many other shopping areas because it was good for cyclists & drivers, easy to find & lots to choose from. We now make the effort to meet at Cafe Zoe, Marsh Manor Shopping Center, Mediterranean Wraps & other similar places for coffee. We still brave it for books, Howie's, gift shopping & TJ's, but we deliberately avoid it during highest traffic times.
Congrats to Know Knew Books!!! I've brought so many friends there, discovered plenty of now favorite authors while meandering their aisles & been so appreciative of this gem that knowing it's going to stay is a huge relief. I hope that Bill can now better plan his future - he is a solid guy. Woot!
Posted by TimH, a resident of the Old Palo Alto neighborhood, on Sep 24, 2012 at 10:42 am
Town & Country strikes again. After "about 20 years" in business at the location, Korean BBQ, apparently renting only allowed a month-to-month lease for seven years, is turned out. The story does not mention this, but anyone who remembers how other former T&C tenants have been rewarded for long-term residence (Stickney's), it seems safe to presume that Korean BBQ was deemed to be "less than" what T&C sees as desirable now and was greeted with a fat rent increase that they could not afford to pay.
Nice work, T&C. Your parking area is a mess and your “style” becomes more sterile with every change you make.
Posted by shopper, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Sep 24, 2012 at 11:48 am
I used to like going to the T&C shopping center because they had a wider variety of businesses than the Stanford mall. Is T&C trying to kick out all their lower priced businesses to save their parking spaces for high end customers? If so, I'm going to take my shopping dollars to Mountain View.
Posted by Silly, a resident of the Embarcadero Oaks/Leland neighborhood, on Sep 24, 2012 at 1:27 pm
Town & Country has become a disaster. The traffic jams are horrible. The design of the parking lot with the high walls is a hazard. I once entered off El Camino and practically smashed into a car I couldn't see because of the wall that was backed up in traffic.
And we know all about the ludicrous situation with the traffic lights that back up traffic past the Embarcadero underpass.
I still can't forgive the T&C management for refusing to allow the Prestige Boutique to move back into a smaller store. After DECADES in business, they forced them out. I miss them terrible and often joke, "Like this outfit I got at Prestige? You'll be seeing it for the next few decades."
During Presige's going-out-of-business party, I approached the young guy from the city and told him how bad the traffic light situation was and he replied, "We know. We're looking into it."
That was about 3 years ago and still NADA, Zilch, ZERO action.
I usually drive to the Menlo Park Trader Joe's to avoid Embarcadero and T&C. How much tax revenue does the city lose because of their inaction??
Posted by shopper, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Sep 24, 2012 at 1:44 pm
Paly Voice has a much better article about the Korean BBQ: Web Link
They say the restaurant has been at that location for 22 years. The current owner took over 9 years ago. She is a Korean native who loved sharing her culture and cuisine with her customers.
The new "Asian Box" is like a big box store in comparison, very bland and impersonal.
I know there are other quality Korean BBQ restaurants down in Sunnyvale, but that's too far to ride my bicycle. The Korean tofu soup restaurant on El Camino is good, but that is a different style of Korean food that I don't like as well as the Korean BBQ.
Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto, on Sep 24, 2012 at 5:29 pm
It's cold comfort, but I appreciate reading comments from others' which echo my feelings about T&C.
The Korean place was there for more years than 7 - I recall co-workers going there more than a decade ago. I recall T&C management driving out Weight Watchers & The Cookbook awhile back. Then there's that dreadfully named Honeys & Heroes, the pregnancy/new baby place & the overpriced maternity store. It's that marketing for the "Look at me look at me, I'm a mommy!" crowd - sad. What I do like are the gorgeous flower arrangements. In 2011 they had those gorgeously scented double daffodils - but that's not the best advertisement for a shopping center. I still like Douce France & have been able to finagle going there at odd hours to avoid the heinous parking. But clearly I'm not the only one dropping my dollars at other locations. I hope the management is reading this thread!
Posted by Jane, a resident of the Old Palo Alto neighborhood, on Sep 24, 2012 at 6:09 pm
No one has ever figured out how to configure the red light leading out of T&C onto Embarcadero. It's been a nightmare for 50 years. Also, a friend of mine tried to rent a spot at T&C for a shop. He was told by the rental office that the owners of the property eventually want to tear down T&C and put up housing.
Posted by Margaret Fruth, a resident of the Ventura neighborhood, on Sep 24, 2012 at 9:49 pm
The Korean BBQ reminds me of Cookbook: popular, affordable restaurants thaat Ellis Partners cut off abruptly at a financial loss to the restaurant owners. I just don't go to T & C anymore, especially not to the luxury baby shop that replaced Cookbook.
Will it be housing for Stanford staff & young faculty?
FYI: in addition to the TJ's in MP, there is one in San Antonio Shopping Center.
Posted by Hmmm, a resident of East Palo Alto, on Sep 25, 2012 at 8:52 am
Musical - the last few times I went to Marie Callender's, it was sub-par. Shame on me for not ordering something like quiche or soup & cornbread - their reliable dishes. It was always a comforting go-to place during the week that we could enjoy w/our elders or if kids were involved.
And we have to remember - the Mike's in Menlo just closed, too.
I still miss The Cookbook - the baby place serves a purpose, but it seriously - it's no match for The Cookbook' ability to bring enjoyment to many since it only serves the few - pregnant & newer families - but it doesn't *feed* them.
Jane - there hasn't been at light at Embarcadero/T&C for 50 years - there wasn't one there when I was at Paly & it wasn't quite 5 decades ago ;-)
This is a reminder that the restaurant business is very difficult & that they're a moving target in this difficult times - if only by their scurrilous landlords, as even a loyal clientele is no guarantee of success.
Posted by Paly Alum, a member of the Palo Alto High School community, on Sep 25, 2012 at 10:29 am
I worked as a waitress at Marie Callender's back in the day when students had jobs in the 80s. It was a hip place, usually packed and served food like TGIFs/Red Robin. I moved back to Palo Alto and went there in 2006 and was discouraged that it had gone so downhill and was more of a coffee shop restaurant for senior citizens. The quality of pies and menu items had diminished too. The menu had changed and so did the clientele. I'm not surprised it closed, although saddened because of the memories.
Posted by Jan H, a resident of the Old Palo Alto neighborhood, on Sep 30, 2012 at 1:19 pm
I am not surprised. The place was dirty, the floor was downright filthy, the food was either bland or hot, no real flavor. The service was chilly, too. Oh, and the second time I went there I came home with food poisoning, so perhaps there were other health code violations than just the viable ones.
Posted by Jan H., a resident of the Old Palo Alto neighborhood, on Oct 7, 2012 at 1:04 pm Jan H. is a member (registered user) of Palo Alto Online
BTW! the new Town and Country SUCKS! I like a lot of the stores, especially Peet's Athleta, and Trader Joe''s, but the traffic is insufferable. They took out SO many parking spaces to make room for needless landscaping that people drive around and around continuously looking for parking.
It is very hard to get into the T&C parking lot, but absolute murder to get out of it. They created a real bottleneck on Embarcadero, right in the spot where the poor Paly employees have to leave their parking lot. Like they don't have enough hassles dealing with rowdy teens, they can hardly leave the place at the end of the day!