Posted by speed, a resident of the Old Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jul 7, 2012 at 8:13 am
Embarcadero and Middlefield are both 25mph streets. How fast was this car going to rollover? A Nissan Sentra is a small low stable sedan; not a tall SUV or pickup that will rollover on a whim.
Posted by My understanding, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jul 7, 2012 at 8:15 am
My understanding is she ran a red light and got broadsided. See the damage to the door in the articles photo. No clear a solo rollover would cause that.
Posted by Mike Grossman, a resident of the Community Center neighborhood, on Jul 7, 2012 at 8:17 am
Several of us found an injured dog (possibly part German Shepherd) wandering around at Rinconada Park about 20 minutes after the crash. I think it's possible that the dog was somehow involved in the accident. Perhaps the driver was trying to avoid hitting the dog. From the tennis courts, we heard a long screech of brakes before the sound of a collision.
The dog was taken for treatment by the Animal Services Division.
Posted by HillbillyHeaven, a resident of the Community Center neighborhood, on Jul 7, 2012 at 8:31 pm
I saw the whole thing. She was driving north on Middlefield Rdandwasn't paying attention. The dog....I believe it was a laberdoodle or yorky/English bulldog mix...was in the front seat and it looked like she was giving him some kind of treat. As she came to the intersection...the light was RED....the dog began barking furiously and jumped on her seat (possibility wanting more Milkbones?) and obscured her view. She blew the red light and was "t-boned" by an AMC Gremlin traveling at a high rate of speed. The Gremlin was driven by a middle-aged man wearing a tie dyed t-shirt that read "Make Love, Not War.
Posted by DogLover, a resident of the Downtown North neighborhood, on Jul 7, 2012 at 8:54 pm
Dog should NOT be allowed in the front seat of automobiles. They can be seriously injured if there's an accident. Like small children, they should be in the back seat. Reading "Skymall" during a recent flight, I saw an ad for "Doggie Seat", a car seat for your dog...comes in small, medium, and large for different size dogs. They also sell "Doggie Diapers" for those long trips. The dog car seat sounds like a good idea, but who gets to change the diapers??
Posted by Carol, a resident of the Midtown neighborhood, on Jul 9, 2012 at 6:55 am
@Sharon: about the natural gas: are you familiar with the hydrofracking techniques that are polluting water supplies with toxic chemicals and causing earthquakes in areas of the US? Loss of water is quite a price to pay for fuel - but of course, fracking is not likely in Palo Alto, and our precious water from the Sierras may not be in danger - yet. Fracking is coming to California, if "Friends of Natural Gas" have their way. Cheap, clean and safe? Not really! Stay tuned.
Posted by KP, a resident of the South of Midtown neighborhood, on Jul 9, 2012 at 9:43 am
A GREMLIN!! Who has a Gremlin anymore...HILARIOUS bit! Maybe it was a Pacer!! LOL!!
Living so close, I use that intersection almost daily and never have seen or been remotely close to an accident there...I had no idea it was considered so "dangerous".
People who drive cars don't realize, anymore, that it is a PRIVILEGE - NOT A RIGHT to drive. We have stressed that to our kids and HOPE they get it.
Posted by palo alto mom, a resident of the Duveneck/St. Francis neighborhood, on Jul 9, 2012 at 11:29 am
I drive down Newel frequently, cars on Embarcadero blow thru the stop light at Embarcadero and Newell (one block east of Middlefield) at least 50% of the time.
Posted by Experienced Cyclist, a resident of the Community Center neighborhood, on Jul 9, 2012 at 1:20 pm
I also live near that intersection and walked my kids to Walter Hays every morning for about 10 years, which involves walking through that intersection. During the morning commute hours, you see someone run that red light just about every cycle, especially the folks turning left from southbound Middlefield to eastbound Embarcadero. It's surprising there aren't more such accidents at that location. If PAPD ever needs to do some revenue generation, that should be easy picking.
Posted by Carlitos Waysman, a resident of the Old Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jul 9, 2012 at 7:04 pm
Can the Palo Alto Police Dept explain, why they still have the signs up stating that the speed limit on Embarcadero is 25 MPH, while the 95% of drivers go 35 MPH and above?
Posted by Police info, a resident of another community, on Jul 10, 2012 at 3:22 am
To Experienced Cyclist: PAPD doesn't get any money from writing traffic citations. The City gets some money from parking citations but that goes back into the general fund, not the police department.
To Carlitos Waysman: PAPD doesn’t dictate a speed limit for a road. That is decided by the City’s traffic engineering department which is part of Public Works.
Posted by commuter, a resident of the Old Palo Alto neighborhood, on Jul 10, 2012 at 8:36 am
Obviously, Carlitos was commenting on why does the PAPD not strictly enforce speed limits on residential roads next to many of our schools? Increasing the speed limit on roads near schools is unthinkable. If possible, the city should make all school roads double fine zones.