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on Apr 25, 2012
This article is obviously wrong. "We Can Do better Palo Alto" has stated on many occasions that PAUSD is failing economically disadvantaged students and no amount of data can fault their conclusion.
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Forget college! Become a paramedic...takes about one year. Then become a Firefighter. With salary and overtime, make $150K+ per year! My brother did.
I hope Caucasian (sp?) and Asian students were included in this data.
If they are low income, then they were included in this count. Not all low income kids are Black or Hispanic.
It's a pleasure to read that Palo Alto schools are doing much better than the average in helping low-income students to improve their future prospects by getting into college.
I can't believe, with such an interesting story, the first two comments were about a grammatical error. Too much time on their hands, maybe?
If students go to college and take majors that teach them a useful skill, e.g. engineering, physics, medicine, etc., then it would be worthwhile to get advanced schooling. Piling on student loans to reach an academic dead end has been well documented. Too many take literature, English, social studies, economics, art history, etc., where need is limited, mostly in the teaching professions.
The Joel is right. Learn a useful trade like plumbing, electrical repair, auto mechanics, which require a few years of apprentice training, and you're paid during the learning period! The need for those skills will increase in the future and the pay can be very good.
"Forget college! Become a paramedic...takes about one year. Then become a Firefighter. With salary and overtime, make $150K+ per year! My brother did."
We need to get firefighter pay down to market level (about 60K per year I suppose with a nice 401K match instead of a ridiculous, unsustainable pension) so that we don't lose the next Google guy to this line of thinking. That and the fact that it's irresponsible to throw our tax dollars away catering to well connected special interests.
To Micheal from Crescent Park,
My brother-inlaw is a police officer who made over $226k last year with salary and overtime. Throw in a nice pension at the end of 30 years. Micheal, life is not fair...you need to deal with it. Oh, don't worry about the next google guy...not everyone can be a Firefighter or police officer.
So there are no "people of color" that are firefighters or police officers. So tired of the "race card" being toss down.
Mary, I agree with Joel on this particular issue. This is not the time to play the race card because anyone can apply to be a firefighter or police officer. In NYC, the percentage of African American officers (in the total force) is going up and has been for the past few years. And all firemen and police officers are subject to the same benefits and gains. Sacramento's fire department chief, Ray Jones (2010), is black (I don't know if he's still the head, however, I'd like to assume he is). Hispanics, many of whom are also low income, make up more (percentage-wise) than their population in the NYC police force (or at least they did in 2009).
Also, I think that Joel said "Life is not fair" in response to Michael's mention of the "ridiculous, unsustainable pension" aka the difference between public and private sectors. The US is not the only country to have a salary difference, just look at Europe. It has little to do with race....
I apologize if this sounds too critical, I just wanted to express my opinion on the subject. I hope it's not too harsh, I didn't mean it to be that way.
So what passes as low income in Palo Alto these days?
This document shows current family income guidelines for the federal Free and Reduced Price Lunch Program: Web Link
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