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on Mar 19, 2012
This campaign reminds me of that scene in Full Metal Jacket when Gunnery Sgt. Hartman (R. Lee Ermey) berates Private Pyle (Vincent D'Onofrio) for having an unlocked foot locker.
"If it wasn't for **bleep** like you, there wouldn't be any thievery in this world, would there?!"
Hopefully the cops won't turn over our houses and find the jelly donuts we aren't supposed to have!
I'm offended by the previous comment.
If Palo Altans spent more time outside, in front of their houses, I bet that would reduce crime. It is amazing to me how few people here in PA actually spend any meaningful amount of time in front of their houses. No wonder burglaries are up: both spouses are working all day long, few people bbq/hang-out/whatever in front of their houses, leaving burglars free to roam around.
'Lock It or Lose It!' sounds more like a threat then a slogan.
It doesn't even rhyme.
PA PD claims crime wave when crime is down. It must be contract negotiation time.
Well, I can't help but point out the sad connection between the timing of this rash of burglaries and the publicity around the passing of Steve Jobs. Pictures of iPads left of the sidewalk... (I never saw any, but somehow the news made it seem like it.) Break ins across Los Altos and Palo Alto coincided and have continued. It doesn't help that the Isaacson biography mentions Jobs having left the backdoor to his house unlocked. (I'm sure burglars read, too.)
I am not blaming anyone, but we should probably have expected it to add to residential burglaries. The stepped up vigilance is probably necessary for awhile to come.
Given you most devices are wired nowadays, I do find it difficult to believe ipads and similar devices aren't difficult for police to recover, and wonder how much that had to do with that huge drug bust recently...
I do think highly of our police, they usually do get a handle on things like this.
Has anyone set up an internet-connected video alarm system?
I wish to take this opprotunity to make another pitch for homeowners to buy and install a video surveylance system on their homes. With a few of these scattered around, the police might get enough information to make more frequent arrests. A lot of information can be had from even a small grainy clip that shows the perpetrators. Properly placed cameras can cover not only your yard but also your neighbors front yards.
Don't ask for the government to do this, it ain't gonna happen. Don't buy a gun, buy a camera. You are not going to hurt anyone with a camera.
JustMe, do you any recommendations for systems/equipment?
So, lemme see. Steve Jobs is at fault. People are offended at cop/donut jokes. People should hang around their front yards more. The slogan doesn't rhyme. It's contract negotiation time.
Justme is the only person making a sensible comment. Burglary is up because there are a lot of entitled loser thugs out there who have no compunction to steal the property of others. PC judges and others take pity on these jerks, blame their home life and the economy, and the problem proliferates. Eventually, someone will walk in to their home, surprise a burglar, and get hurt. Surveillance systems are great, but the problem is, a system worth it's salt, unless hard wired, will cost almost 4 hundred and up....
Oh yea, burglars read about Steve Jobs open door in Isaacson's book. I was wondering how they figured out some people leave their doors unlocked. Surely theu their love love of literature and free time reading.
Those clever rapscallions!
Let's see. A book reports that billionaires live in a quiet Palo Alto neighborhood within blocks of each other, and they often leave their back doors unlocked. Book is a best-seller and widely reported about on radio and internet. Media recently shows lots of images of makeshift memorials with iPads left right on the sidewalk. Sudden increase in burglaries ensues, especially looking for the unlocked doors in the back.
No one is blaming Steve Jobs (it's usually the courteous thing to do to actually read through other people's posts BEFORE spouting off, by the way). But most crimes are crimes of opportunity -- what do you think is going to happen when a potential opportunity like that is advertised to millions and millions of people? D'ya think a few of 'em might be criminals?
Good luck with that underestimating the intelligence of all criminals, just like Lucky and Wells Fargo did with the ATM skimmers...
Palo Alto police are doing exactly the right thing, stepping up patrols and educating everyone about the importance of locking up and reporting suspicious behavior. I just wanted to point out that there are reasons they may need to maintain that vigilance for awhile into the future.
Why doesn't the police Dept simply randomly park patrol cars on neighborhood streets.
Its a good quiet place to write reports or have lunch.
With a guard parked watching your home 24/7 you can feel pretty confident that you aren't going to be burglarized (Steve Job's home).
Since Colorado has OPEN CARRY and " Make My Day " laws, residential burglaries don't happen very often. The MANTRA here is " CARRY and USE IT "
It's too bad that the SFBA disarms it's citizens...and can't disarm the repeat criminals...
A THREAT is all that the PAPD can do...they should be as disarmed and as toothless as the local citizen.
Remember, when seconds count, the police are only a half hour ( or days & weeks ) away.
You have NO LEGAL RIGHT TO HAVE LEOs PROTECT YOU!
That is the ugly truth affirmed by the SCOTUS in Castle Rock vs Gonzales:
Colorado Springs ( near Castle Rock ) residents successfully eliminate burglars several times a year...Burglars now avoid CS...There are easier pickings in Berkeley East ( AKA BOULDER ) and in Denver ( with weapons banned ).....
WE need to take more responsibility for ourselves. Can't shoot anyone is nobody is home. Outside of crouching behind your couch with a gun all day, there are measures homeowners can take. An alarm system. A dog or dogS. Locked doors. A surveillance system if you can afford it.
Paul, no, I really don't have a specific recommendation to make on a system, but if you go to Amazon.com and search for them those systems are listed with customer reviews. Just shop a little.
Some time ago we bought a 9-camera system to replace our 4-camera sysstem, and we paid about $1000 for it. yeah, it's a little pricy, but it is not bad compared to the common household income around here. It is also a small percentage of your loss if you get hit. It has a deterrent effect all by itself, it stopped the "ring-the-doorbell-and-run" antics of some kids pretty quickly. We covered the house and had cameras left over for watching the creek and a birds nest with eggs. And we found out who was digging in the flower bed.
Features I would look for:
Infrared for night vision,
Wired, not wireless,
Power and video provided through one cable,
Color during the day
Web access is nice
Ability to store at least 1 month of video on all cameras, circular buffer
Good reviews on Amazon
some lived in east palo alto and left their FRONT door ajar ALL night for freash air! some like fresh air. and also their window open!! but no longer of corse. the human race has deteriorated rapidly.this was 20 years ago.
Wow the police have to dam near beg people to lock their houses and cars up. But people still don't listen so they have to make a whole campaign about it lol. Whats so hard about making sure all your doors and windows are locked before you leave? Is it really that difficult?
Okay, the Palo Alto statistics are 110 reported residential burglaries in 2010 and 149 in 2011. It would be interesting to know what percentage of these cases are being solved. And more interesting to know whether anybody went to jail. If the jail sentences were more widely reported, like on large billboards at the city limits, we might get a reputation as a mean-spirited place not to mess with.
I'm afraid that right now we have a reputation that we in Palo Alto feel sorry for petty thieves and are more than willing to cut them some slack for all the misfortune in their lives or the addiction problems that aren't their fault. We have been blessed with so much. We have created this expectation of sympathy and sharing our wealth.
Lock it or lose it. Any wonder we are blaming ourselves?
The police are doing the logical thing. If the crooks realize that homes in Palo Alto are invariably locked and secure, they are unlikely to waste their time in this town.
Locking up only slows down thieves and make what they are doing more obvious. It takes neighbors and passersby paying attention and reporting to actually deter thieves.
And deterrence has limited value because the thieves simply move on to an easier target ("I don't have to outrun the bear -- I only need to outrun you") -- everyone can't be above average.
The key deterrent to thieves is not making break-ins require more effort, but to make them involve more risk (of the thief getting caught and convicted). And that is what is missing from this campaign.
A lot of suspicious activity goes unreported until after the fact (too late). I would have hoped that the police would have devoted some of this campaign to better educating residents on how to spot and respond to suspicious activity. BTW, the previous owner of my house had a break-in, but because one of the neighbors reported the thieves as acting suspiciously, the police arrived while they were just climbing in the window they had broken.
Mr. Moran is correct in that securing your home against burglary does not make the actual problem go away. And in fact, you cannot perfectly secure your home, anyone determined enough will find a way in. All you can do is raise the level of difficulty and risk involved, making it take more effort, and convincing the thief to go elsewhere. That is why I like video sysstems that not only watch your home but also watch the neighbors. If a burglar gets a good and profitable hit next door and returns for more, your home could be next. And that is aside from the fact that it is just neighborly to help protect your neighbors, who are hopefully friends. The camera that watches your front yard and its approaches can easily scan across the street too, if properly placed.
The cameras can also provide the police with vital information to help catch prowlers too, removing the bear rather than just abandoning your neighbors to it.
Another feature you want in your video surveylance system is the ability to save video clips to a DVD so that you can deliver them to police. All video clips should be date/time stamped. It seems all good systems do this. When a suspicous "solicitor" shows up on your doorstep you call the police, and they ask "What did he look like?" You show him the video from your front door camera and/or hand him a DVD of it, from the time he walked onto your property until he left, including him looking around the side of your house and examining the gates.
Yeah, we have to lock it or we'll lose it,,,,because the police is not gonna do anything about it.
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