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On Deadline blog: Massage parlor column rubbed some the wrong way

Original post made by Jay Thorwaldson, editor emeritus, on Feb 27, 2012

My column in last Friday's Weekly (Feb. 24) triggered a few interesting responses, and rubbed some readers the wrong way -- especially current massage therapists. Could one say they might be a bit thin-skinned?

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Posted by John
a resident of College Terrace
on Feb 27, 2012 at 1:33 pm

I remember when one of the [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff] (under the cover of a 'massage parlor')was on Cambridge Ave. I didn't mind (to each his/her own). However, it became a problem when the johns started getting mad at each other, out of jealousy over a particular [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff]. The fights spilled out into the street, and cops, with smiles on their faces, went to war with them, swinging their big sticks. The cops won, and the [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff] were hissing at them, on the sidewalk. At this point, I decided that I was no longer so liberal in my thinking, because I was just starting to raise my young family in the area, and I didn't want to have to face all the passions that prostituion poses on our streets.

I wonder if Jay ever witnessed one of these fights? He seems pretty naive to me.

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Feb 27, 2012 at 2:12 pm

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

I have witnessed fights outside of saloons, baudy houses, schools and drug stores. Shall we shut them down too? All this to keep someone from a voluntary exchange of money for a consensual service?

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Posted by John
a resident of College Terrace
on Feb 27, 2012 at 5:42 pm


I watched at least three fights outside that place, all of them in mid-day. These were not your regular bar fights, they were vicious jealousies for the same gal. Sorry, old boy, but I don't buy your premise.

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Posted by Elizabeth Robinson
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Feb 28, 2012 at 1:01 pm

I'm wondering if Mr.Follmer is mistaking the MTC which is the Calif Metropolitan Transportation Commission who funds the (VTA) Valley Transportation System and is the hopeful revenue source for the California Ave Transit Hub Corridor Enhancement Project. The California Massaget Therapy Council (CAMTC) is a state wide organization to help massage therapists understand the laws and regulations governing the massage profession.

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Posted by Walter_E_Wallis
a resident of Midtown
on Mar 1, 2012 at 12:27 pm

Walter_E_Wallis is a registered user.

John, your ability to divine the reason for bar fights is amazing. Brothel fights, however, are rare, because everyone gets his chance.

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Posted by John
a resident of College Terrace
on Mar 1, 2012 at 2:25 pm

Walter, having been in a number of bar fights, in my younger days, it is about alcohol numbing the senses and defending/promoting one's ego. It is not about jealousy, which is a much stronger emotion. [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff] Capiche?

The bottom line is that [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff] should not be allowed back into Palo Alto. We have already been there, done that. If you want a [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff], do it discreetly, through the yellow pages or Internet. That is how Las Vegas does it, yet even LV still goes after them. In Nevada, the legal [Portion removed by Palo Alto Online staff] are out in the desert. Let's not go back to bad old days.

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Posted by Sparty
a resident of another community
on Mar 2, 2012 at 3:55 am

Illicit massage parlors not a problem?

I'd say the money that Palo Alto PD spent to set up in an office and do the sting across from the massage palor off California Ave is a problem.

Funny how all these massage historians in the industry are so clueless about it. Or are they?

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Posted by Aquamarine
a resident of Stanford
on Mar 3, 2012 at 11:43 am

What "massage parlor" across from Calf Ave, Sparty?

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Posted by Hmmm
a resident of East Palo Alto
on Mar 5, 2012 at 12:27 am

Moderator, **please** remove the words denigrating female prostitutes in John's posts (although I hope you chuckle, as I did, that his name is John). While I understand his disgust at the fighs he mentioned, it was many years ago & his language is inexcusable on a public forum. Thank you in advance.

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