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Jeb Bush, ultimate politician

Original post made by Lilly Roof, Los Altos Hills, on Feb 24, 2012

2/24/12

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said Thursday that he found it 'troubling' that the 2012 presidential candidates are 'appealing to people's fears and emotion' on the campaign trail, according to reports.

'I used to be a conservative, and I watch these debates and I'm wondering, I don't think I've changed, but it's a little troubling sometimes when people are appealing to people's fears and emotion rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective, and that's kind of where we are,' said Bush, according to Fox News.

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Y'all get it? two possibilities, both on why he isn't running in 2012

- Jeb didn't want to run against a powerful incumbent in an improving economy, fearing he'd lose and running again in 2016 for the open seat, looking like Romney, running for the last 7 years.

- Jeb wants Romney to lose this year so Jeb can run for the open seat in 2016

Never trust a Bush or any establishment politician (redundant.) Rick Santorum or Ron Paul. A vote for anyone else is flat out wrong.

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Posted by not running?
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Feb 24, 2012 at 3:36 pm

The current bunch of Republican candidates are so awful that Bush is probably gauging the right wing support for a more moderate candidate. If the far right doesn't massively counter-attack Bush's statements, he may join the race.


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Greater Miranda
on Feb 25, 2012 at 6:24 am

Don't need to "appeal to my fears and emotions"...I am already terrified and have been since TARP...redistribution mentality ( from each what he can, to each what he needs, just take more from those who have earned more) took over my country.

I want someone who recognizes the cliff we are falling off, not someone who will pat me on the head and lull me into believing "it is ok", cuz it ain't.

I am terrified for the future of our kids and for my retirement, even though I will have to work until I am 75 to have a hope of retiring.

I am terrified that our debt is 100% of our current GDP, and increasing daily.

I am terrified our per capita debt is more than Greece's.

I am terrified that our Constitution is seen by liberals as "living and breathing"..all the way to killing off our individual liberties and rights, from religious freedom to freedom of speech to freedom of self defense with firearms to freedom to run our States the way we want to freedom from invasion.

I am voting for the most conservative person on any ticket.


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Greater Miranda
on Feb 25, 2012 at 6:28 am

Dear "not running".."Far right"??? You DO realize that the most "right wing" candidate left, Santorum, is still to the left of JFK? The definition of "right wing" has shifted as we have swung ever further left. Standing still, I have gone from a "far left" liberal to a "far right" conservative. The shift in this country has been massive since the 60s, and continuing. Now, "far right" is anyone who believes in judging a person based on the content of his character, not his color, and believing in upholding the law and Constitution to "live and let live". Used to be that was "far left".

Get it? Don't be lulled by propoganda


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Posted by Lilly Roof
a resident of Los Altos Hills
on Feb 25, 2012 at 9:53 am

TARP was the creation of Jeb's brother, as was most of this cluster.... economy.




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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Greater Miranda
on Feb 25, 2012 at 10:15 am

Lilly, your age is showing (your "cluster...." gave you away) and look at the history of our economy, when the unemployment and GDP and tax revenue is at its highest and why, and when it is at its lowest, longest "low" and why.

Start with Thomas Sowell, anything, but maybe Economic Myths and Fallacies. Graduate to the Housing Boom and Bust by the same author. Read this Web Link which is a short narrative on how FDR made the Depression longer and deeper. Or, read this book, New Deal or Raw Deal: How FDR's economic legacy has damaged America by Folsom.

It is really time, for your future and the future of your kids, for all of us to become economically literate and re-create the kind of country our kids can thrive in ( and you, as you grow)

TARP was the economic shot heard 'round the world, both Democrats and Repubs falling over themselves to be "the party" that "saved" us with that horrid bail out, moving onward to the great bailout of Autos by all Dems led by Obama, overturning bankruptcy law by fiat, destroying the bond holders in the auto industry in favor of union members...killing off future investors' desires to invest, since the law no longer protected their risk.

What an unholy alliance between govt and unions and "business", from State workers to Auto workers to GE to Solyndra bundlers...far too reminiscent of Venezueala and Chavez for comfort.


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Posted by revisionist history
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Feb 25, 2012 at 10:24 am

Agree with Lilly that it is pretty funny how the Republicans are blaming Obama for George Bush's policies.


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Greater Miranda
on Feb 25, 2012 at 10:29 am

Ok, my last post. It is fruitless to help someone see who is willfully blind.

We were screaming at deficit spending and rising debt under Bush and Repub control..we screamed more when it more than doubled under Dem controlled Congress the last 2 years of Bush..we screamed until we were hoarse that deficit spending would double yet again under Obama ( and we were wrong..it has tripled). We screamed at TARP, we screamed until we had no voice left over "financial reform", "health care reform", "auto bailouts", "unemployment for 2 years" etc.

Yes, I blame the arsonist for a fire, I blame more the supposed firefighters if they throw gasoline on the fire.


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Posted by Lilly Roof
a resident of Los Altos Hills
on Feb 25, 2012 at 11:27 am

"We were screaming at deficit spending and rising debt under Bush and Repub control..we screamed more when it more than doubled under Dem controlled Congress the last 2 years of Bush."

Oddly, one can't seem to remember or find those posts of indignation about Bush spending, by Perspective.

Did notice this gem in 2008: "How much do you want to bet that you won't see Republicans filibustering and blocking EVERY move by Dems?"

How quaint.

There's been record numbers of filibuster since Speaker Pelosi took over in 2006, you should have known that by 2008.


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Posted by Sam S
a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 25, 2012 at 12:53 pm

The Constitution is a Living document.

Look at those that wish to change it to define marriage as being between a mana and a woman.

Or say that corporations are people, my friends, with free speech.


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Greater Miranda
on Feb 25, 2012 at 2:37 pm

Lilly: Please read re: filibusters Web Link


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Posted by Perspective
a resident of Greater Miranda
on Feb 25, 2012 at 2:38 pm

Sam S.: I submit you are unaware of the difference between a "Constitution" and a "law"


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Posted by Sam S
a resident of Barron Park
on Feb 25, 2012 at 4:30 pm

You submit that?

I submit this.

H.J.Res.89 -Marriage Protection Amendment Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

Seems pretty "living" if it can be amended.


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Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Crescent Park
on Feb 27, 2012 at 11:02 am

Why would anyone in their right mind want to run against Obama? No conspiracy - just being smart. Anyone can come up with a list of "high-profile" Republicans who are not running this year...Ryan, Christie, etc.


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Posted by Lilly Roof
a resident of Los Altos Hills
on Feb 27, 2012 at 11:57 am

"Anyone can come up with a list of "high-profile" Republicans who are not running this year...Ryan, Christie, etc."

They won't get my vote in 2016, no matter what lame excuse they tell us for why they are not running this year, when they are needed. Jeb will be the last one I support after his statement, all based on well known Bush games.

"I used to be a conservative, and I watch these debates and I'm wondering, I don't think I've changed, but it's a little troubling sometimes when people are appealing to people's fears and emotion rather than trying to get them to look over the horizon for a broader perspective, and that's kind of where we are"

He almost slipped and said "compassionate conservative". You can just hear it in that statement.


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Posted by St Pats K
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Feb 28, 2012 at 4:55 pm

"Oddly, one can't seem to remember or find those posts of indignation about Bush spending, by Perspective."

Did perspective find a post to prove he was screaming about Bush in 2006-2008? Bet he can't show us more than a post or two. Probably had a hundred screaming at Pelosi. And not a one about all those vetos from Bush. Oh, yeah, about all those vetos....


Lilly claimed there weren't any posts. It's an easy thing to prove, perspective-boyo.

Gotta get in the theme for St Pats, boyo.


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Posted by Mac Barnes
a resident of Crescent Park
on Feb 29, 2012 at 12:25 pm

Jeb brings a guarantee of winning Florida.

The GOP candidate cannot win without Florida. The democrat base states plus Florida's 29 votes add up to 271 counting the expanded votes for Texas and other census changes.

Romney would have to live in Florida to make sure we carry it. That leaves the other swing states free for Obama to cherry pick 30 something votes among the other nine states. Too risky. Have to have Jeb Bush on board and he won't be a veep candidate.

Jeb has to come out of the closet and run. If he does neither veep nor run, it's an open office in 16.


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Posted by food for thought
a resident of another community
on Mar 19, 2012 at 12:54 pm

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