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on Feb 14, 2012
While there is no rational excuse for violence, it happens all of the time. Taking people's firearms will not remove the means to do bodily harm to those that have become estranged, or pawns in a domestic situation--
'Horrifying': Dad blows up house with him, sons inside:
GRAHAM, Wash. ' Days after a judge ruled against him in a child custody hearing, a father of two young boys apparently blew up a house Sunday with all three inside ' a tragic ending to a bizarre, long-running case that began when the man's wife went mysteriously missing in Utah.
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There are deeper issues here than having a showboating DA try to grab a few guns, to make a political statement for their base.
It has never been about the firearm, an inanimate object. In a state where getting a restraining order is as easy as ordering a fast food burger, lets think about the rights of everyone involved. This mentality is juvenile and shows yet again the social and mental retardation that seems to spread in the water in california.
Hoplophobia, as coined by Colonel Jeff Cooper in 1962 "Fear of firearms and armed citizens" is a social phobia and retardation of society.
I'd like to see more of these people getting the help they need, and the county and local law enforcement as well as the community offer these people options (women shelters, church organizations, etc) None of which would have probably helped in this case, as these isolated events are exactly that isolated. If it was not a firearm, it would have been a knife, a motor vehicle, or something as extravagant as the suicide in Washington State (where the house blew up a few weeks ago/similar story)
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A firearm makes it too easy to kill or to take one's own life. People often do things on impulse or under the influence of alcohol or drugs that they later regret. These facts are obvious to anyone who has studied this issue. Removing firearms from a person who has abused or threatened another person, especially a family member will save lives and reduce our prison population.
So you give more power to a power hungry government. Who draws the line? Who has the right to make that decision. The right to own firearms is a constitutional right (as much as the certain region we are talking about/live seems to deny) A felon cannot vote, and loses many of their rights. To become a felon you have to go through a court, have your case, be judged by your peers. A restraining order only requires one judge. That is to much power in one individuals hands, when it comes to another individual's rights, if you ask me. I think the current system is flawed, but trying to blame the firearms is irrelevant to the case of a restraining order, its just another chess piece pawn, in the fight to strip citizens of a constitutional right.
Women need these D.V classes as well as the men,If your going to stay together you need to grow together.If one spouse has the tools ,and the other lacks then you will have a much unbalanced relationship etc...
Good point, G Town.
I am suspicious of posts from those from "another community" who post pro-gun opinions, so I dismiss them.
It's sad that this article is cheek by jowl w/the massage therapy article, which is rather silly. It's even sadder that so many died because of domestic violence. I wonder how many more died due to domestic violence & it's just not known that that was the cause?
The SJ Mercury article has more details--
Here's the bottom line for Domestic Violence-related deaths:
Domestic Violence-related deaths
2011: 16 (10 incidents)
2010: 5 (3 incidents)
2009: 11 (5 incidents)
2008: 3 (3 incidents)
2007: 4 (4 incidents)
2006: 6 (5 incidents)
2005: 10 (7 incidents)
2004: 6 (6 incidents)
2003: 21 (14 incidents)
2002: 18 (7 incidents)
2001: 17 (14 incidents)
2000: 18 (15 incidents)
Source: Santa Clara County District Attorney's Office
> Guns were used in six of the 11 domestic-violence related
> killings, according to the district attorney's committee
> that reviews domestic violence deaths.
Some of these deaths are suicides, which is not all that clearly called out. The method used in the non-gun related homicides are also not called out in the article.
The problem with this country is not that people have or do not have guns, it is that they have the vote and do not bother to use it wisely. Just selfishly.
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