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on Jan 22, 2012
Has it ALWAYS been so bad in East Palo Alto?
Before we moved to California, we had FOUR different people tell us to avoid that town.
It might be time to pass some policies that might kick the criminal elements out of town.
>> "It might be time to pass some policies that might kick the criminal elements out of town."
Enforcing immigration law would be a good start.
I am not sure I like the idea of simply kicking these criminals out of EPA, and that would accomplish would be the export of these activities to other communities. Removal from our society and/or correction of the behavior would seem a better option.
I agree that enforcing immigration law would be a good start, there have been articles in the past of gangs from Mexico and South/Central America moving into the US where the market for their "product" is. A couple years back there was a police chase past my house where the fugitive was a murder suspect who, I believe, had fled the US and returned. I cannot see how we can permit the free movement of criminals over our borders.
On the other hand, please keep in mind that there are a LOT of non-criminal-types of illegals that keep major segments of our lives functioning. How do we tighten the screws on the "bad" without negatively impacting ourselves by cutting out the "good" people? Especially how do you tighten ANY screws when the well-monied "bad element" is able to purchase influence to make sure they are not impacted?
Oh, and EPA was not ALWAYS like this, there were times when it was worse.
It used to be much worse in EPA. In the early 80's EPA had the highest per-capita murder rate in the country -- 45 murders in one year. I've worked for the school district since mid-90's, and the new immigrants are by-and-large law-abiding people who care about their families and want their children to have a better education and a better life. EPA is becoming 'gentrified' to the dismay of some old guard. The 2010 census shows many more Caucasian non-hispanic than black residents! Almost twice as many. EPA is overwhelmingly Latino, that's true. To solve the problem 20 years ago, the police cracked down and threw about 80 people in prison. The crime and murder rate dropped precipitously! It's still a very small group giving the place a bad name.
What do you mean enforcing IRS laws.You are talking like a human and look like a human, then when would you start to act like a human, right now you look like a human traffickers.
Nayeli once again is fomenting drama about the problems in EPA, as if her na´vetÚ contributes to the discussion. Why would walking around anywhere in the middle of the night being unsafe surprise anyone? It certainly doesn't surprise me.
There are places where you can walk safely in the middle of the night, and there are places where you cannot walk safely at any time. Within any given city there are places where you are relatively safe and places you just should not go alone and unarmed. Big healthy guys like me find safety being alone in more places than small and petite ladies and girls.
I would rate EPA to be less safe than some of the surrounding communities, but I would rate it probably safer than parts of Oakland. Those who are more familiar with EPA than I would inherently know the safer areas, stay there, and feel safer than I.
In theory, you should be able to stuff your pockets with visible $100 bills and walk freely and unmolested in any dark alley you want, you would have a right to do so. Reality suggests that testing this may not actually be such a good idea, even at Stanford.
I am a Hispanic female living in Palo Alto. My husband and I have walked around in the evening around this community and felt relatively safe. Shortly after marrying, we walked around our community in Texas and always felt safe. When we were in college, we walked around the campus and felt safe there.
I wouldn't feel safe walking around East Palo Alto during MANY times of the day. My husband has had TWO frightening experiences in East Palo Alto out of the few times that we have shopped in the city.
I am sorry if that upsets you. However, many people that we know feel the same way. It may have something to do with the reports of shootings, stabbings, sexual assaults and other forms of violence that we read on a weekly basis from such a small community of just about 30,000 people...or the fact that a number of individuals FROM East Palo Alto that are arrested for such crimes here in Palo Alto.
The bottom line is that the crime rate is substantially higher in East Palo Alto than the surrounding community.
BTW, if you want to see real time crime stats, visit:
It is shocking.
We have taken our children and neighbor children on midnight walks around the block or to the local school playground when we had sleepovers. It is fun for them to go out late, use flashlights, and see things at a different time. I don't know if I would want to do that in EPA with the robberies and shootings and such I hear of. I owuld probably think of night time as the time to bolt the windows and doors and stay inside.
We have some friends who built a house in EPA, and I was talking to the father about living there. He said he could not really understand why he has had so few problems, but he suspects it is because his house is set back from the street with another house closer, and he keeps the lights on.
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