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The time to act is now ...

Original post made by Margaret Suozzo, Another Palo Alto neighborhood, on Apr 17, 2007

On Saturday, April 14th, an estimated 250 people from the Palo Alto area took part in the largest day of citizen action on climate change in our country's history.

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Posted by Draw the Line
a resident of Stanford
on Apr 17, 2007 at 12:38 pm

Highly recommend reading the book

"Unstoppable Global Warming" by Singer

Factual, no hyperbole, real science and some political background to all the furor over anthropogenic global warming.

Bottom line...we have multiple cycles of warming documented, and we are nearing the peak of one of them. Every 1,500 years, with cycles w/in that one also. And they are correlated with a warming sun. Which is happening now. Anybody notice the big news a few weeks ago that the ice on Mars is melting? Is that our fault, too? No, the sun is in a warm cycle.



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Posted by anonymous
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2007 at 4:29 pm

Even the Bush Regime has reluctantly accepted the fact that global warming is happening due to the burning of fossil fuels and other man made creations, like coal burnig plants. Sure, global warming has occurred before, the last time being during the cromagnon period. This was no problem back then because the vast majority of people did not live near the oceans, like the majority of humans today. Scientists on top of Monau Kea in Hawaii over the years have noticed a dramatic increase in ozone layer, greenhouse gas buildup, and so on. Amphibians, like frogs and salamanders, an indicator species, are rapidly nearing extinction, along with many other creatures, like the polar bear, who is not expected to be found anyplace but in a zoo in aprox. 50 years or less. Mankind has a greater ability to survive the warming, which is expected to increase by roughly three degrees over the next century at the rate things are going, but the animals are less adaptable to these changes, and many species are predicted to become extinct over the next fifty years as well. This has been all over the news. Things can be done to make alter the process, but to deny this is simply misguided at this point. To perpetuate the misinformation is not helping this dramatic problem. The VAST MAJORITY OF SCIENTISTS THAT STUDY THESE ISSUES ARE IN AGREEMENT THAT THE EARTH IS GOING THROUGH ITS SIXTH MAJOR EXTINCTION PROCESS, AND THAT WE ARE HELPING THE PROCESS ALONG. Top Generals in our own military have recently suggested to the president that something needs to be done. Where shall we draw the line in regards to the planet? Believe what you will, but please don't bury your head in the sand, or underground will be where were living in the future.


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Posted by anonymous
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2007 at 5:16 pm

refer to the following webstite for an article by Kurt M. Cuffey, Professor from UC Berkeley, who is speaking at Stanford as I write this post. I apologize for my lack of computer knowledge, and must leave you with this long winded entry. Perhaps one of you could make is more accessible. That would be great. I think you wil find the article very useful.

www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/10/09/ING5FFF2U031DTL.

title: There's no disguising it-global warming's no put on
From sf chronicle 10/9/05

Just thought it might be useful to have experitise of someone who is actually studies this stuff four a living, as opposed to the local spammer.


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Posted by Draw the Line
a resident of Stanford
on Apr 17, 2007 at 5:46 pm

Yes, thanks. Cuffey is one of the guys cited in Unstoppable Global Warming. An actual climatologist..


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Posted by anon.
a resident of College Terrace
on Apr 17, 2007 at 5:50 pm

yes, he studies glaciers while your at home


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Posted by anon.
a resident of Ventura
on Apr 17, 2007 at 5:54 pm

today's issue: www.guardian.co.uk/

lead story in world section

ttile The New WMD? Climate Change Threatens Security UK Tells UN

check it out, these are not the words of partial pundits


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Posted by Joanna
a resident of Crescent Park
on Apr 18, 2007 at 8:47 am

Margaret, thanks for an excellent post. To others, please consider that whether or not you accept the well-documented reality of global warming caused by human factors, there is a vast multitude of other good reasons to adopt the practices that can offset global warming. Reducing our dependence on fossil fuels, creating less waste, curbing pollution, working to foster biodiversity (and combat species' extinction rates) are all things we need to be doing *regardless*, for our personal health, and that of our environment.


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Posted by Margaret
a resident of another community
on Apr 18, 2007 at 10:20 am

Draw the Line suggests that current warming is due to a warming sun. If the warming we are observing were primarily due to changes in energy output from the sun, however, the whole atmosphere would warm. This is not happening. The observed pattern -- warming in the lower atmosphere, cooling higher up -- is a “fingerprint” that emissions are trapping heat at lower levels, and is one of a half dozen such fingerprints that support human emissions as a main factor in recent climate trends.

I repeat, we can and do have an impact. The time to act is now.


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Posted by Dick
a resident of Palo Verde
on Apr 18, 2007 at 11:07 am

The warming sun heats the oceans causing more water vapor--the major greenhouse gas. The small amount of man-released CO2 has an insignificant affect.

Chicken Little lives.


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Posted by Draw the Line
a resident of Stanford
on Apr 18, 2007 at 11:48 am

Thank you Dick. People have a very hard time understanding all of this, since it is such a very complex issue.

The tendency is to reduce it to its simplest belief system, which I wouldn't care about, but the belief system is trying to force itself on me, so i object.

Everyone who wants to learn anything, go to the thread where we went through all the science, links, books, arguments etc

Web Link


Or, just read the book, Unstoppable Global Warming.

There was also a Channel 4 ( Britain) documentary that was not badly done if you prefer to watch your info instead of read it. It was on youtube also. Can't find it now..anybody know what the name of it was?


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Posted by Dick
a resident of Palo Verde
on Apr 18, 2007 at 3:43 pm

The name of the great documentary is "The Great Global Warming Swindle". It can be found by a Google search, "warming swindle".


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Posted by Dick
a resident of Palo Verde
on Apr 18, 2007 at 3:53 pm

The full documentary (about 1 hr 15 min) comes and goes on YouTube. It may not be there now. Try later.


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Posted by Draw the Line
a resident of Stanford
on Apr 18, 2007 at 4:35 pm

I couldn't find it either, which is why I thought I had remembered incorrectly. I didn't realize videos came and went. Thanks


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Posted by Draw the Line
a resident of Stanford
on Apr 18, 2007 at 4:42 pm

May I add that clarifying how small the impact of humanity is on the warming of our planet does not lessen the inherent "goodness" of being smart about conservation, recycling, etc. Being as clean as we can voluntarily be is one thing..forcing changes on nations through governmental regulation which will have no demonstrable effect on the warming, and which would cost trillions of dollars that would be better spent in simply vaccinating everyone, planting food, building irrigation, eradicating malaria spreading mosquitos, all of which would have proven and demonstrable effect on the lives of humans..it makes no sense.


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Crescent Park
on Apr 19, 2007 at 4:34 pm

For a country composed of people who mostly cannot set the digital clock on a VCR, we certainly have millions with a clear and complete understanding of global warming and its causes.


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Posted by Dick
a resident of Palo Verde
on Apr 21, 2007 at 10:35 am

Another pretty good movie on climate change can be found at www.aconvenientfiction.com.


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Posted by Dick
a resident of Palo Verde
on Apr 25, 2007 at 10:37 am

Still, another good YouTube presentation is "Global Warming-Doomsday Called Off". (5 parts)

Web Link=


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Posted by Draw the Line
a resident of Stanford
on Apr 28, 2007 at 1:56 pm

Ok, finally watched the ConvenientFiction link you gave, Dick.

At last, a coherent, reasonable, undramatic, ( read dry, but factual) presentation that acknowledges that there is some truth in Gore's movie, but does an excellent job of explaining how it isn't the WHOLE truth.

Great link.


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