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Palo Alto should open its arms to the immigrant children

Original post made by Jennifer, Midtown, on Jul 10, 2014

Palo Alto is rich, and we need to open our arms to the poor children who are pouring over our borders. We can be part of building a new America, one with compassion, from the bottom up. There are so many empty bedrooms in Palo Alto, especially among the wealthy. Will they open their hearts to the poor children? Will our religious leaders open up their places of worship to house these children? Will our city council commit to building affordable housing for them, especially in our foothills, where there is much empty lands? This is a crisis that we need to respond to!

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Jul 10, 2014 at 7:07 pm

Palo Altans are supposed to save Buena Vista trailer park, save the homeless, and save 50,000 illegal immigrant children? What about OUR quality of life? Why don't we just all join the Peace Corps?


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Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 10, 2014 at 7:39 pm

We already saved the foothills through an election. Now she wants to un-save them?

Instead of spending millions on trying to host illegal alien children, how about take that money, send them back to their own countries...then use the money to invest in those countries and their schools, teachers, economy, homes, etc. In other words, solve the problem at the source instead of a band aid here.


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Posted by another Jennifer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 10, 2014 at 8:28 pm

This is a bigger problem about corruption, violence, decisions to not observe laws, and countries not taking responsibility for themselves.

If you really want to help, at least get informed about the root of the problems.

I find it strange that you have wealthy people here who are advocating (and funding) for the children of illegal immigrants to attend UC's. There are plenty of poor, and suffering children here to take care of, and I don't see how you want to promote further illegal migration in an effort to "help children."

And apparently you expect wealthy people to now take on more of the burden which is HUGE.

It is criminal to send children through these borders alone. How the illegalities of this problems are overlooked is beyond me.





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Posted by another Jennifer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 10, 2014 at 8:42 pm

Jennifer, original poster

"Will our city council commit to building affordable housing for them, especially in our foothills, where there is much empty lands? "

You might have been joking with this post.

But the answer from me is that affordable housing for illegal immigration at the foothills is a bad idea. It's as bad as the idea to allow illegals to attend UC's funded by private wealthy do-gooders.

IF you care so much, take that money and improve education in the countries which are creating these messes. You could educate thousands more for the price of one. Same as housing.





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Posted by Mr.Recycle
a resident of Duveneck/St. Francis
on Jul 10, 2014 at 9:38 pm

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Posted by resident 1
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Jul 10, 2014 at 9:43 pm

In all of the reporting I do not see any comments about the interaction with the governments that the children come from. This is appearing to be a bottoms up operation instead of a top down operation.
The US Government should be contacting the respective governments, along with the UN to get some commitment from them to take care of their citizens. The US Government should put pressure on Mexico to stop facilitating the movement of people. We need to know how much money is being provided to these countries - if any - to help them take care of their citizens.
Since these are Catholic countries there should be some effort to set up schools and hospitals in the countries by the church. The church has schools and hospitals all over the world.
Everyone cannot be the government - either of this country or the respective countries they come from.
Individual countries have to function in this world to provide the basics in learning and an economy that can sustain the citizens. The leaders of these countries are skimming all of the money - the UN should put pressure on them. No mention anywhere on who the presidents are or how the economies are working. The Peace Corp and other aid agencies can help here.


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Posted by Jennifer
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 10, 2014 at 10:19 pm

We need to eliminate from our minds the notion of borders. We should live in a holistic world. These poor children should not need to face borders, which are very strange to them. Just love the poor, and their children, and invite them in, without reservation. Palo Alto can agree to allow them to live in affordable housing in Foothills Park, as a beginning. Then we can begin a registry of homes and religious institutions who will provide bedrooms for these poor people.

Palo Alto needs to show its heart, as it has done in the past.


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Posted by paved with good intentions
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 10, 2014 at 11:56 pm

@Jennifer,
As a member of a church that sponsors refugees and houses homeless people, I hate to say this, but you aren't doing people any favors by bringing them to the Bay Area which is so expensive. Our refugee families almost always move to less expensive areas of the country when their situations are stable, of their own volition.

On the other hand, resident, I think saving Buena Vista, especially if done in a way that simply helps facilitate a sale to the existing residents without requiring a subsidy, which could probably be done in a number of ways, is a good way to help maintain our quality of life. Helping that park improve while helping the residents remain here rather than allowing a developer to make another high-density high-rise actually helps us all.


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Posted by another Jennifer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 11, 2014 at 12:20 am


I think Jennifer is pulling our leg. But the arguments she makes are actually believed by some fairly serious people.

There are well funded non-profits who are financing the college tuition for high school graduates whose parents came here illegally. It's not a different situation - trying to do something really nice when the energy, money, and especially political influence could do something to change the source problems.

It's called the absence of US foreign policy with these countries. And I would disagree that a world without "borders" is a good idea, since that is precisely the life these children are being thrown out of. Lawlessness, corruption, violence, and ignorance on the part of the people who think they are helping.


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Posted by resident 1
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Jul 11, 2014 at 6:29 am

Palo Alto is about 26 square miles, built out border to border. The people who live here are struggling to have their children in school and go to college. Families with children have a big price tag for college. The school is struggling to maintain its personnel, teachers, and curriculum. Palo Alto is struggling to update the infrastructure along with the other cities on the peninsula. At this time there is considerable building in process for more jobs for qualified people.
26 square miles does not provide room for an endless supply of additional people. Yes - the problem needs to be solved but there are many cities that have large tracks of land that are not built out. That includes most of California if you fly over and look at all of the vacant land. The problem now is that there is no water for the residents so supporting more people
is not feasible.
Jennifer - get in your car and drive California to see where the available land is with water. 26 square miles is not the answer.


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Posted by neighbor
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 11, 2014 at 8:57 am

From what we are hearing in local media reports, Silicon Valley is opening its arms to...prostitutes. Breathless and admiring reporters tell us of the moneyed "family men" who hire hookers. Sad for the state of women to be classified this way.
...and it's idiotic to suggest "Palo Alto should open its arms to the immigrant children;" this country is sovereign like all others and subject to the rule of law, borders, and we risk our security by throwing our borders open as Obama wishes; also no country can afford this; and if you want to immigrate here, to this generous country, then follow the legal procedures. Meantime, if YOU want to adopt a foreign child, I understand there are procedures to undertake that and God Bless You.


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Posted by Doubt This is Real
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 11, 2014 at 9:55 am

I seriously doubt Jennifer's comments are genuine.


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Posted by resident 1
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Jul 11, 2014 at 12:41 pm

There is no indication that Jennifer even lives in PA. We went through a whole period when people from Sunnyvale were blasting us for not providing for homeless people. Then people in Mountain View also took up a bunch of opinions about what we are suppose to be doing.
Guess what = Sunnyvale is being written up as having a resurgence in property values due to all of the building going on. Then Mountain View is going to have high rises complements of Google.
All cities are prospering and trying to offload the issues that drain the city funding. Right now every city needs what it has to upgrade the infrastructure.


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Posted by abc
a resident of College Terrace
on Jul 11, 2014 at 2:22 pm

Let's not forget this country's neglected children! Billions of dollars would have gone a long way to help our own.


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Posted by Jennifer
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 11, 2014 at 3:51 pm

We in Palo Alto pride ourselves in leading the way. We are a liberal city, and we should act like it! It is time to open our hearts and our homes and our lands to the poor immigrant children. What would Jesus say?


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Posted by He would say
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 11, 2014 at 6:56 pm

Thou shalt not feed trolls.


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Posted by Jen #3
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Jul 11, 2014 at 7:57 pm

There are actually quite a few older people in Palo Alto who DID join the Peace Corps in their youth, and some of them have served a second time after retirement!

In fact, there are some who came home with malaria, parasite infestations, and infections from strange bacteria and viruses---in short, ruined health.

So why are Palo Altans alone expected to save the world? I can understand the thinking about billionaires living alone in empty mansions that have seven or eight empty bedrooms. But most of us are struggling with our mortgage payments, property tax bills, and living in homes too small for our growing families--just to put our kids in good schools.

Not everyone living in Palo Alto is a billionaire or even a millionaire--look at all the run-down, weed-infested properties south of Oregon, west of Alma, north of Lytton. Check out some of the Eichler neighborhoods. South of Meadow or north of Louis Rd. You will see the evidence of people who have too little time for home maintenance or improvement, because they are working three or four jobs between two adults to pay for the basics. Or they have two to three generations under one roof, and nowhere but the street to park all the cars of all the working adults.

Get a life and meet reality: the American dream is all but dead except for the few lucky billionaires who happened to be in the right place at the right time ( read Malcolm Gladwell's book on this subject--you need some educating).


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Jul 11, 2014 at 8:15 pm

Hey Jen #3, there is no "North of Louis Rd." as it's an E-W road. And you are assuming that the South PA homes with weeds are a result of housepoor families. Many of those are actually homes of senior citizens who don't want to pay a gardener or simply don't are. Jeremy Lin's parents actually have weeds in front of their house. We paid the extra $100,000 to live north of Oregon because of the nicer landscaping.

I do agree that there are many housepoor families, but the American dream is still available for those who own their homes and can sell them for a dream price, then move elsewhere. Even the people who rent homes here have incomes that can attain the American dream if they were to choose to live elsewhere. The issue is that people love the status of living in Palo Alto - is it really worth it if they aren't saving for the future and their children have no activities because the parents can't afford them? I think not!

And why should billionaires be expected to open their homes to people? Most likely, they are already donating millions to help others.


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Posted by CrescentParkAnon.
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 12, 2014 at 12:34 am


I sometimes feel I am just sleeping and in a terrible nightmare when I
hear that people want citizens of other countries to be able to make
their wives pregnant, have a baby, raise it for a while and then send
it though a long journey so they can end up here in the US and that
we have an obligation to take care of these kids?

First, it's just hard to believe people would do that to their kids, but
what drives this is a basic primitive idea of population warfare and
the soldiers are innocent children.

Human beings are just not supposed to behave this way, and I find
it disgusting, but also the idea that Americans are guilt tripped into
this unlimited immigration stance that seems absolutely insane to me.

This is surely awful, and if year after year, after decade after decade
did not go by and Democratic and Republican administrations did not
stand by and let this build to such a problem we would not have it.
Now it is time to get tough, and we cannot do it.

I don't think Palo Alto needs more development, there should be
a moratorium on new commercial construction that would result
in more than a certain amount of growth and anything that gets
built needs parking and have a way to fit into the community.

I am also for a halt to immigration to the US past what the legal
limits are. We do not need more and more engineers here from
other countries past what the limits are set at, nor do we need an
unlimited supply of labor so cheap it is counterproductive. I want
it to end for 10 years, just minimum legal immigration while we
close the borders to those who are a risk.


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Posted by another Jennifer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 12, 2014 at 1:22 am

Weekly,

Not sure why you don't call the original poster on the trolling.

You have regular posters falling for the inciting comments.







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Posted by Jennifer
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 12, 2014 at 10:52 am

My comments are pleading for compassion for the poor immigrant children. I am not a troll, and I am not inciting anything. What has happened in Palo Alto? It has gotten really bad, recently, with the defeat of Measure D. Is this the property rights ideologues, as if their property values and traffic flows are more important than the poor peoples' needs?

We are one world, and we should act like we understand that.


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Posted by Crescent Park Dad
a resident of Crescent Park
on Jul 12, 2014 at 2:51 pm

As long as it someone else's money...


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Posted by resident 1
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Jul 12, 2014 at 4:47 pm

Jennifer needs to coordinate with city hall on her concerns to get real information as to what the city can - or is willing to do. Possibly an appearance at the city council meetings. She is just banging her head here with no commitment from the city or anyone else in charge of a church.
No one can make commitments of space without coordination with the city, state, or US government.


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Posted by Jennifer
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 12, 2014 at 6:20 pm

Martin Luther King never had a buy-in from Southern cities, when he demanded social justice. MLK supported poor people, and opposed war. We, in Palo Alto, could and should learn from him.

Palo Alto should invite in those poor immigrant children. Greed is not good. Love and economic justice are good.


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Posted by resident 1
a resident of Adobe-Meadows
on Jul 13, 2014 at 6:15 am

How old is Jennifer? You have to have a PLAN, and people to execute the PLAN, presumably someone in charge of the facilities and space in question.


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Posted by Jennifer
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 13, 2014 at 11:02 am

There can be no PLAN, until there is a change of heart. Palo Alto needs to be the LEADER to save these poor immigrant children. Where is the leadership? Where is our liberal heart?

When we are on our death bed, will we really consider our lives in terms of how much money we have aggregated? What would Jesus say?


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Posted by another Jennifer
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 13, 2014 at 6:19 pm


Not sure why Jennifer picks Jesus, what would Mohammed say, or Montezuma. In my house, none of them have a say. Jennifer may have the wrong forum.

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Posted by Palo Alto is a name of a town
a resident of Leland Manor/Garland Drive
on Jul 14, 2014 at 12:59 am

To Jennifer,

Rather than addressing Palo Alto as if it is a person and commending this person what to do and how to do it, perhaps write an email to a real person, maybe a religious guru of your choice, or maybe a local city mayor, but addressing Palo Alto in first person does not help your cause. Good luck!

I hope these kids find homes, unfortunately not my home. I am only comfortable to live in my home with people I know and love and I don't let strangers into my home, but I hope others are more comfortable with opening up their comfort zone surroundings to the unknown foreigners.

I saw a piece on 60 Minutes of how a man arranged for Jewish kids to leave the Nazi regime and how all these kids were adopted by wonderful Jewish families in other countries. Perhaps, the American countrymen and religious counterparts of these children can do the same for these kids.

Again, best to you and your cause.


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Posted by J
a resident of Barron Park
on Jul 14, 2014 at 2:25 am

@ Jennifer,

You keep asking what would Jesus say. I am not well versed on Jesus, I assume you mean the Christianity founder and not just anyone by that name. Surely, he would not be happy with your generalizations of the people living in Palo Alto; some are liberal, some are conservative, some are wealthy, others bought their homes for $30K back in the forties and now live on Social Security in their homes. Anyhow, Jesus would not be happy with the corrupt government leaders in the countries from which children are fleeing, the city of Palo Alto has nothing to do with any of this. It is best for you to contact religious organizations for help with housing these kids: (1) Catholic churches, (2) Mormon churches, (3) Jewish Family and Children's services, (4) civic organizations like Free Masons and Elks.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Palo Alto High School
on Jul 14, 2014 at 6:36 am

A nice dream of yours, Jennifer. Not my dream.

Churches preach compassion yet only one in Palo Alto wanted to open their parking lot to the homeless. Good luck with churches. This is the hypocrisy of organized religions - somehow people think they have halos over their heads just because they attend church.


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