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on Mar 12, 2014
This is ridiculous. We needed it five years ago. The AAAG worked for months and came to the conclusion that it was necessary. Just because more portables have been put into campuses that were designed for 350 kids and exempted caps that had been established it does not mean that our schools are not overcrowded now.
We buy a computer when we need it because we can buy a computer and take it home and use it straight away. We can't do that with a school. It takes at least 3 - 5 years to get a school up and running.
Skelly is wrong here. Our elementary schools are no longer the pleasant neighborhood schools that they should be. They contain students from all over town who have been squeezed in where they can. The traffic around our elementary schools is because so many kids live outside the school boundaries. We have no efficient traffic plan to get students to school apart from being driven across town by parents.
And, did the school board not read about all the new housing that the new housing committee is reviewing. San Antonio Road will have new housing. Frys will have new housing. These developments will have school children. And they will have to be squeezed into overcrowded schools.
This is preposterous.
Plus one to everything the prior poster said. Is the school board really so short sighted or is something else going on?
Just because each kid has a chair does not mean they are each being well served. Far from it. I speak with so many parents who stretched to pay the real estate premium to live here and are sorely disappointed in quality of PAUSD. These are people quite familiar with very well regarded schools in other states - public and private. PAUSD really is not all that it claims. Huge let down at the elementary level.
@Far From - given your knowledge, could you share which districts you think are truly the cream of the crop? While I'm sure there are people who are disappointed in PAUSD, I'm not sure what exactly they are looking for and what they think is missing. It may be that people have different views of what's important.
The decision to delay another school is simple. $$$. It costs a lot more to open a school than to simply add kids to an existing site. Add to that the rental $$$ the District gets from Stratford, Pinewood, Cubberly, etc. and it comes down to finances.
Another +1 to @Resident's posting three hours ago. I'll state from personal experience that Palo Verde was overcrowded years ago.
I completely agree with Resident said in the first comment. Unfortunately, this has nothing to do with money or a new superintendent search, and everything to do with this board not having enough of a backbone to make a decision about anything.
An interesting quote from an article from 1997:
"The school board also voted on plans for a possible 13th elementary school. The board voted to set up a "trigger" to start the planning process based on the student enrollment, or if additional grades are added to the state class-size reduction program.
"You have to have something like this so you can make a decision," Tuomy said. "Otherwise you go back over this every year. We can't do that because we have Building For Excellence to plan for."
If enrollment is projected to be on high side--an increase of 150 students at the elementary level--plans will be made to move Ohlone to the Garland site by the beginning of the second semester in 2000. In that case a neighborhood school would be open on the current Ohlone site."
Now, I didn't have Everyday Math when I went to school here, but I'm pretty sure the increase in elementary enrollment since 1997 is well over 150.
Here is the link to the original article if anyone wants to read it for context: Web Link
@Erin - your dad is missed by PAUSDâ€¦ and he definitely had backbone!
Thanks for putting in context the reality that the boards have been recycling the same argument every year for more than 15 years of student population growth. As we have seen thousands more students in the district over that period, each year the board has vacillated over whether to open a 13th elementary school as we have watched our elementary campuses become more crowded. Nearly all of the campuses have been long overcrowded, obviating the need to hinge the decision on future growth rates.
In one sense, you are right that it is not about the money since the district's revenues this year are around $10 million greater than they were projecting just two years ago. And yet, in the board's mind it is about the money. They simply refuse to commit a basic responsibility of providing reasonable school sizes as they cling to a strategy of cramming more and more kids into the same campuses.
We can think of this as a "penny wise, children's interests foolish" policy.
Unfortunately, the decision has been made for this year. As concerned parents, we need to participate in the superintendent selection criteria survey to advocate for broad values in the new superintendent. Then, we need to participate actively in the school board campaigns this fall. We need to support candidates with backbone and good values such as; a neighborhood school for the 13 elementary, embracing compliance with state and federal laws, safe routes to school, site based innovation rather than site based autonomy, social/emotional well being as a critical path to student success and a climate without fear of retribution for dissent.
Let's get busy.
You make some great points.
We have a school board election this year. It is now March. I am hopeful that we will have candidates who will be willing to move on this and other common sense issues. We must not have more of the same.
Why can't the local PA, Los Altos and MV school districts come together for a solution. Los Altos does not have space yet it has many students who live in PA and have to cross El Camino to go to school. Joint district magnet school perhaps would solve many problems.
These districts working and thinking in silos is maddening. Let's think outside the box and collaborate - "you have space, I have kids but no space, let's talk."
All I can say is that if my child was overflowed to some trailer in Barron Park after I bought a home across town I would want someone's head. All that driving and my child not having a neighborhood school experience? That's insanity. Also the schools are just too large. 500 is a middle school not an elementary. That's too big.
This is the worst board in PAUSD history. No surprise that this gang that can't shoot straight missed the target again.
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