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How can I convince my husband to vote?

Original post made by American on Nov 5, 2013

His parents came from a different country and don't vote because their country was corrupt. So every election, my husband and I argue because he doesn't vote.

My grandma came from a different country and voted, using a translator because she couldn't speak English.

Why don't people appreciate America?

Comments (12)

Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 5, 2013 at 9:10 am

That is the beauty of true democracy. If someone doesn't want to vote they don't have to. Freedom of choice means just that.


Posted by Tourist, a resident of Old Palo Alto
on Nov 5, 2013 at 9:54 am

In Australia, voting is mandatory, and it is enforced. If you do not vote, you get a summons to go to court and explain yourself. If found guilty, you pay a big fine.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, so sayeth T homes Jefferson.


Posted by Outside Observer, a resident of another community
on Nov 5, 2013 at 10:00 am

"a different country and don't vote because their country was corrupt"

Seems your husband is a man of principal. The same thing applies here.


Posted by musical, a resident of Palo Verde
on Nov 5, 2013 at 10:34 am

In Australia the "big fine" for not showing up is $20. You can avoid the fine and still not vote by submitting a blank ballot.


Posted by Jane Doe, a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Nov 5, 2013 at 10:53 am

There are plenty of slackers in America who have been here for many generations and don't vote. Americans don't realize how good we've got it here.


Posted by John Smith, a resident of Nixon School
on Nov 5, 2013 at 11:09 am

It's not easy, but once you convince yourself that you can't change others, you will find peace. "Ignorance is bliss."


Posted by CrescentParkAnon., a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 5, 2013 at 1:06 pm

I vote in every election ... never did any good ... I cannot think of any good reason to vote, or to support the logic of voting the way we do since we vote for candidates or parties - not on issues. We are not getting represent ion, mostly we are getting our time and money wasted to avoid the mistakes of a full on democracy - now we get the mistakes of an uncaring "entitled" elite. We vote to feel like we are on the winning side. When our arbitrary team wins we feel good and validated, when it doesn't we don't. Between voting events we all argue over stuff that doesn't matter anyway.

Is that a good reason? ;-)


Posted by musical, a resident of Palo Verde
on Nov 5, 2013 at 4:41 pm

Maybe we find out today whether our vote does any good. Love a small turnout -- makes my vote count double, triple, or more!


Posted by vive la différence, a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 5, 2013 at 4:52 pm

Is he called Russell Brand? Web Link


Posted by Outside Observer, a resident of another community
on Nov 5, 2013 at 9:58 pm

Voting would be more useful if we were ever to have options other than the lesser of two evils. If we had a 3rd choice, "None Of The Above", that could go a long way toward getting the corruption out of government. Here is how it would work:

If "None Of The Above" won, then all others running would be barred from running for any political office again, and new candidates selected, and a new election held.

Possibly, this cycle could go on indefinitely, as "None Of The Above" continued to win, but would that be a bad thing? I think not as inaction by government has almost always been better than any actions government has taken for several decades now.


Posted by CrescentParkAnon., a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 6, 2013 at 12:28 pm

Here is some interesting information on American voting ... from the Daily Kos website. We have regularly elected Presidents for over 100 years that get less votes that the number of people NOT voting. It was over 100 years ago, but the last President to win more votes than there were people who did not vote was Theodore Roosevelt and here's the data:

2008 Election: 42.5% non-voters 30.4% Obama 26.3% McCain

2004 Election 44.7% non-voters 28.0% George W. Bush 26.7% John Kerry

2000 Election 48.7% non-voters 24.6% George W. Bush 24.8% Al Gore

1996 Election 51.0% non-voters 24.1% Bill Clinton 19.9% Bob Dole - This was one of only three elections in which non-voters constituted an outright majority. The other two were 1920 and 1924. There were more than twice as many non-voters as there were voters for Clinton. That's pretty depressing when you think about it.

1992 Election 44.8% non-voters 23.7% Bill Clinton 20.7% George H. W. Bush - I believe that Bill Clinton's 23.7% was the record low. It feels weird to realize that Clinton never even had the support of 1/4 of the VAP.

1988 Election 49.8% non-voters 26.8% George H. W. Bush 22.9% Michael Dukakis

1984 Election 46.9% non-voters 31.2% Ronald Reagan 21.6% Walter Mondale - That's right: In Reagan's landslide re-election, he didn't even have the support of 1/3 of the VAP.

1980 Election 47.4% non-voters 26.7% Ronald Reagan 21.6% Jimmy Carter

1976 Election 46.5% non-voters 26.8% Jimmy Carter 25.7% Gerald Ford

1972 Election 44.8% non-voters 33.5% Richard Nixon 20.7% George McGovern - This is the last time a president won more than 1/3 of the VAP.

1968 Election 39.2% non-voters 26.4% Richard Nixon 25.2% Hubert Humphrey

1964 Election 38.1% non-voters 37.8% Lyndon B. Johnson 23.8% Barry Goldwater - So close, LBJ! As a consolation prize, even though he didn't beat the non-voters, he still won the largest share of the VAP of any president in the 20th century.

1960 Election 36.9% non-voters 31.4% John F. Kennedy 31.3% Richard Nixon

1956 Election 39.4% non-voters 34.8% Dwight D. Eisenhower 25.5% Adlai Stevenson

1952 Election 36.7% non-voters 34.9% Dwight D. Eisenhower 28.0% Adlai Stevenson

1948 Election 47.0% non-voters 26.3% Harry Truman 23.9% Thomas Dewey

1944 Election 44.1% non-voters 29.9% Franklin D. Roosevelt 26.7% Thomas Dewey

1940 Election 37.5% non-voters 34.2% FDR 28.0% Wendell Wilkie

1936 Election 39.0% non-voters 37.1% FDR 22.3% Alf Landon

1932 Election 43.1% non-voters 32.7% FDR 22.6% Herbert Hoover

1928 Election 43.1% non-voters 33.1% Herbert Hoover 23.2% Al Smith

1924 Election 51.1% non-voters 26.4% Calvin Coolidge 14.1% John Davis

1920 Election 50.8% non-voters 29.7% Warren G. Harding 16.8% James Cox - 1920 was the first presidential election since women gained suffrage nationally. So the share of the voting age population in elections prior is really a constricted population.

1916 Election 38.4% non-voters 30.3% Woodrow Wilson 28.4% Charles Evans Hughes

1912 Election 41.2% non-voters 24.6% Woodrow Wilson 13.6% William Taft

1908 Election 34.6% non-voters 33.7% William Taft 28.1% William Jennings Bryan

1904 Election 34.8% non-voters 36.8% Theodore Roosevelt 24.5% Alton B. Parker - We have a winner!


Posted by CrescentParkAnon., a resident of Crescent Park
on Nov 6, 2013 at 12:29 pm

Sorry meant to include this link to the Daily Kos story:
Web Link


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