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Higher ed leaders meet edtech startups

Original post made on Jul 24, 2013

College and university presidents who met in Palo Alto this week brainstormed the future of higher education by discussing hypothetical students and hearing from edtech startups.

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Posted by Marty
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 24, 2013 at 12:35 pm

What about the traditional student?? Surely there are still some students who want and will thrive under the old system? There must be some students who still want to come to class and have personal contact with and learn from an expert. What will happen to them?? Are they just to be tossed aside in favor of the short-attention-span-immediate-gratification-I-don't-want-to-come-to-class-or-lift-a-finger, multitaskers?? I seems like the current money-saving education plan is just point them to Kahn academy and be done with it.

Teachers? Who needs em? We got videos!!!

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Posted by John
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 24, 2013 at 3:37 pm

Start with educational vouchers. Allow private models, like the Kahn Academy. Force the public schools to join the 21st century. Ban the public school teacher unions...the most destructive force against against our students.

It is not a hard analysis, but it is hard politics, apparently.

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Posted by MOOC
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 24, 2013 at 3:46 pm

John, perhaps you aren't aware that charter schools are no more or no less successful that regular public schools overall even though they often cherry pick students, leaving the kids with educational difficulties behind for the public schools.

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Posted by MOOC
a resident of Another Palo Alto neighborhood
on Jul 24, 2013 at 3:53 pm

John, the Kahn Academy isn't a school, it's an online library of instructional videos. It doesn't provide guidance on when it is appropriate to take what courses for what students. That's all left to the student...who may have no idea.

You might also check out the abysmal non-completion rate of MOOCs - Massive Open Online Courses. It's down around seven percent.

And teachers' unions provide some small protection from unhinged or incompetent principals, administrators, school boards, and similarly challenged parents.

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Posted by John
a resident of Midtown
on Jul 24, 2013 at 3:59 pm

"perhaps you aren't aware that charter schools are no more or no less successful"

I didn't say anything about charter schools, although I am not against are projecting.

Do you support public school teacher unions?

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Posted by Wayne Martin
a resident of Fairmeadow
on Jul 24, 2013 at 4:35 pm

> You might also check out the abysmal non-completion rate
> of MOOCs - Massive Open Online Courses

While it’s true that the current completion rate of MOOC’s is very low, there are reasons—

Web Link?

Ultimately, we need to look at the completion rates for people who otherwise “in school”, and those who are “just along for the ride”, and currently are not “in school”.

It’s been long-known that the just making videos of in-class presentations does not play well in the remote education arena. What’s needed is a significant shift in the delivery model—which the typical teacher is unprepared for. Some research has shown that the technology used for games works well in delivering distance learning—based in large part on the interactivity involved.

It is a shame that typical brick-n-mortar schools do not publish their actual costs for each student. If people could see exactly what sitting in class, or “partying” is costing—it’s hard to believe that they wouldn’t endorse MOOC more.

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Posted by neighbor
a resident of Greenmeadow
on Jul 24, 2013 at 4:35 pm

@MOOC -- the statistics you cite are very misleading. Most who sign up for MOOCs are just checking out what all the fuss is about, and a few who sign up are from competing MOOC vendors. The statistics that would be most helpful would be the completion rate for those who signed up intending to complete the course, but that is not available. If I were to guess, it would still be lower than brick-and-mortar classes, but significantly greater than 9%.

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Posted by Diana
a resident of Mountain View
on Jul 25, 2013 at 9:47 am

Received BS from WGU. I would have loved to go to a traditional school. Expensive tuition rates probably is number one issue that prevented this. Second issue, how to get a good (accredited) education while working full time. I couldn't justify spending 10k a semester, not working, and ultimately not contributing financially to the family.

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