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on Jul 2, 2013
This does not bode well for the safety of the new Edgewood Plaza Fresh market and any other stores that may want to open here. If a gas station can be robbed at gunpoint at 11.00 am, in what is the parking lot of the Market, who on earth will want to spend time shopping here?
Was his license plate covered up?
Let's not over dramatize this event or try to inject scare tactics. Since events like this and worse can happen any place, any time, they cannot be taken too seriously if one wants to live a normal life.
I agree, @ Not an Issue, it's odd to see how a certain poster always leaps to criticize Duveneck/St. Francis on this forum. It's a great neighborhood and location. I find the Fresh Market to be very nice. Turns out there are lots of them elsewhere in the U.S. - I just had a visitor here from the Midwest who said they have it in his upscale suburb. The rest of the shopping center renewal is now going along well. I can't wait to see who the other tenants will be! I don't buy my gas at the gas station there because like many prominent gas stations at entrances to highways, it's higher-priced.
This has happened many times in the last 12 years! I do not go there anymore because they were robbed when I was filling up several years ago, after dark.
Midtown Palo Alto experienced a similar hold-up at the 7-11 recently.
Gas station guys, keep the door closed!
Number one...I assume the robber didn't have a squirt gun..glad the attendants were not harmed. Number two...what an idiot to take only chump change from a gas station in the first place, he will be facing at LEAST 10 years in prison for his moments of terror~ If and when they track him down or someone snitches him off ( I hope..)
I'm surprised the robber was able to get back on 101 so quickly. Usually when I'm at that Shell, the westbound traffic is too difficult to time right, so I just turn right and do a couple of U-turns to get back in that other direction. Most of the time, you would probably get T-boned.
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Excuse me, being held up at gunpoint at eleven in the morning is not supposed to be a "normal risk of everyday life" in Palo Alto. It's not like they got hit by a meteor.
Here's what someone who knows the gas station well had to say:
"Ahmed Faiyez, the manager of the station, told the Post yesterday that to his knowledge the station had never been robbed before in the daylight.
"It's a very safe place," he said. "I can't believe it."
The Daily Post, July 3, 2013, p. 16
Same description from a robbery in Mountain View. Whoever this robbing scum is, I hope someone gets him soon. I'm sure that he will go to jail for a few days then be back out on the streets robbing and terrifying people once again.
fear your censors and your government. they have authority to hold you, robbers do not.
This story does not surprise me; my wallet was stolen there several years ago and when I reported the incident I was told by PAPD that that area was a known crime spot.
I go to this gas station every week during day time, even with my young kid sometimes. I'm not dare to go at night already since long time ago(maybe 3 -4 years ago). It's ridiculous. Robbers are fearless now.....
Get a grip folks!! Did anyone stop going to the Safeway or Starbucks after the 7-11 was robbed? After all, they are close by. And the liquor store on Middlefield was robbed not long ago. People are robbed downtown and in the nearby neighborhoods from time to time. Time to write to Jerry Brown and the state legislators and tell them you are opposed to releasing inmates from prison.
> Answer: Anyone who does not have an idiotic misapprehension
> of how to deal with the normal risks of everyday life.
I really resent how Palo Alto Online lets directed insults like this stand. Saying that a particular poster has an "idiotic misapprehension" is publicly insulting that particular person and should be deleted.
It tends to support the misperception that this is or should be the public's value system ... when almost all arguments of this sort are backed by interests that profit from an unsafe environment, be it in public spaces or in the workplace ...
We all should have enough experience to understand that our society and our economy move forward by reducing risks at all levels for all people.
A statement like this basically promotes a social value system where those who can afford to live in gated communities and do not have to spend a lot of time in the public environment denigrate and ignore the whole idea of the public environment ... which is the NORM not the exception in our country.
These are essentially "fighting-words" of the continual class war that we have been fighting and wasting time and resources on our whole history.
I have shopped at the new Fresh Market several times and think it is great. This unfortunate robbery won't deter me at all.
Citizen, much more than a few of these guys come from the east bay. I'll meet you at the 92 and Dumbarton bridges for the tear down then its of to build the great 237 wall. Or...maybe we don't live in fear. Yes. I choose the latter. We'll save the 92 and Dumbo and build our infrastructure for the future with the new bike/ped bridges.
Ahhh. I feel better already.
Robberies have not happened ther in the daytime. Enforce, but there have been several at night there in the last twenty years. The location near a freeway makes it perfect for a robber seeking an easy and quick getaway.
We avoid that gas station due to how annoying most of the customers are & how high the cost of gas is. OTOH, we love The Fresh Market & the parking is close enough to be safe, so we'll continue to patronize.
Gas up before the weekend - gas prices will be increasing!
I'm thinking most of these places that get robbed need to start investing in some better security cameras ... and start scanning outside their stores for people walking up with masks.
Been there says, "Robberies have not happened ther[e] in the daytime."
The article says the robbery was at 11 am. That's the daytime, just before lunch.
The recent remodeling of the gas station left the two huge signs
on Embarcadero, the bright yellow canopy which seriously detracts
from Edgewood Plaza and the residential neighborhood at this gateway
to Palo Alto, yet did not provide a secure cashier window as seen
at many stations. As far as the design review the City apparently
did not choose to get involved.
Actually the original cashier window is still there but not used.
It looks like the cashier booth was left as is.
This should indeed be cause for alarm. This is not New York City, or Oakland, or San Francisco. It is Palo Alto, nominally a well-off suburban-style community.
I go to that station often too. And I'm often accosted by a person wanting to "just ask me a question." Then I see him playing the same shtick to every patron there, with no action from the management.
I see a lot of semi-scary stuff there. I say "semi" because it's not enough to have me stop going there, given the convenience.
I think that's the problem. We all see the issues, but keep going there because there are not many other convenient options. We need to insist that the management better manage safety there.
From this station's management perspective, the rare robbery is small cost relative to establishing management systems to secure safety. We need to let them know that that will no longer be the case. Make it safer and less "scary", or we will go elsewhere for gas.
What do you all think?
The work done about six months ago involved mainly replacement
of the tanks.
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